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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up in an upper-middle class area, and the neighbors were all engineers, Ph.D.'s, accountants, and economists. Why should the black children in the neighborhood get a &quot;leg-up&quot; over high-achieving poor whites in Brooklyn (or wherever) when it comes to getting into a competitive college?

Affirmative action should be based on a combination of better-than-average-grades and family income. This could be accomplished by giving &quot;special chance&quot; points to the top 5% in every school who ALSO has a family income of less than $100,000. In the inner-city and poor rural areas, just about everyone is from a sub-$100,000 family, so the top 5% get the special-chance points. Thus, in a crappy DC public school with 400 graduating seniors, about 20 would get the AA points. In a wealthy Bethesda W school, perhaps only 1 or 2 would (because a high family income would disqualify the others).

In addition, kids qualifying for special-chance points would get the equivalent of tuition of the state's 4-year public university. End result is the exceptional kids from lower-middle-class (or poorer) families get the leg up in admission AND tuition support.[quote] Race would not be a factor ([b]although since black families earn less than whites, on average, they would still benefit disproptionately[/b]).[/quote]

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OP, why are you singling out Black children?  If the underlying premise of your question is that all college admissions should be income and merit based, as opposed to considering racial representation, then singling out Black children in your post makes you appear anti-Black.  To be clear, I am not calling you anti-Black, I am only saying that your written words make you appear so.  Especially, since there are other unidentified POC groups within the US and territories that you could have included in your post.  Presumably, those groups also get POC points towards college admissions, too.  Unless, of course, you believe that Blacks are also getting preferential treatment over those groups as well.  Either way, you had ample opportunity in your post to mention other groups, or speak more generally.  Clearly, you chose to single out Blacks.  If you are anti-Black, that is your right.  You have a right to like/hate anyone you want.  However, you don't have a right to impose your hate on anyone other than your offspring.

Continuing, the basis of your opposition to racial affirmative action is flawed. I have an idea, lets use facts and reality. :idea: In the real world, Princeton detailed the admission statistics for the Class of 2023 ( https://admission.princeton.edu/how-apply/admission-statistics )

Class of 2023
32, 804 - applicants
1896 - admissions
1343 - enrollees 
24% - 455/322 Asians
11% - 208/148 Latinx
11% - 208/148 International 
7% - 132/94 African Americans
7% - 132/94 Multiracial (non Hispanic)
&lt;1% - First Nation
40% - 758/537 white (Princeton didn't include whites in their diversity table.  Who's the white man that made that call?)

Whether admitted or enrolled, whites still comprise the majority of Princeton students.  Unfortunately, we don't know the racial percentage of applicants, for the Class of 2023.  However, it is safe to conclude that the majority of applicants were white.  What you probably haven't considered is that, even if no Blacks were admitted in the Class of 2023, the admission/enrolled slots divided amongst the remaining diversity groups, negligibly increases the likelihood of admission for a white student. (see https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2002/04/14/the-myth-and-math-of-affirmative-action/60096413-672b-4a4f-8dd1-8d38a7f282e9/ )Bottom line is that Princeton is not going to admit a whole lotta people.There's still going to be about 30000 rejection letters.  Man, a whole lotta white kids going to be sad.  Thems the breaks.

Lastly, I don't know you because this is an anonymous forum.  I don't know your heart, the quality of your upbringing, or the frequency and intensity of your personal interactions with Black people.  I only know what you typed.  Erase the Hate.[/quote]

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