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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think the correct path is...just suck it up and do your best to stomach MLS by going to games and watching it on TV because it will help US soccer.  The path should be, MLS needs to provide a better product to get us "snobs" to watch.  We took my U9 team to a DCU match a few years ago.  During our season leading up to the game, we preached taking care of the ball.  The opening kick off went back to one of the backs and he blasted it as far as he could to the other team.  Every kid and parent looked at me.  I was at a loss for words. Never went back.  My 10 year old son laughs at MLS games on TV more than anything.  I would love him to get passionate about DCU, but how can you? It's awful.[/quote]

How about you let your kid come to his own conclusions and support what he is passionate about. If you talk to him about MLS the way you do here you just splashed cold water on him. Good job! Let him figure out if it is awful. Do you make him watch Masterpiece Theater because Spongebob sucks too? I bet you're real fun at parties too.  [/quote]

I am not this poster. I am the other MLS-blaster.  MY KIDS are the ones that said 'this sucks' at the DC United games.  I was busy drinking with the other parents...already knowing I wasn't going to see great soccer on display so I might as well have some fun.  That was not me talking.  I said nothing about MLS prior.  We had season tickets to the Washington Diplomats as a kid, btw.

Give kids more credit.  The soccer enthusiasts raised on it can spot poor play at a very young age.[/quote]

You just don't get it. Without a successful domestic league soccer will not be a culturally relevant sport that will be self motivated to compete on the worlds stage. It is really encouraging that your kids also think MLS sucks. You know what also actually sucked, 1960's NFL but it was the best that we had at the time. I'm not telling you to fawn over MLS, I'm not even asking you to like MLS. I'm asking you to support our professional leagues because they will never grow and improve if we don't. [/quote]

Dude, in case you missed it I WAS GOING TO PROFESSIONAL US SOCCER GAMES in the 1970s!!! Washington Diplomat season ticket holder.   I have Pele's autograph from when he played with the Cosmos. Unlike NFL, the sport has not progressed over the same time period to a sport people want to watch because it isn't even remotely close to International games.

Truthfully, the joy back then was getting to see Beckenbauer, Cruyff, Pele and some of the other greats even though they were well past their prime.  Get Messi to come to the MLS after retirement and people will start showing up.[/quote]

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Man U vs Barca sold out FedEx field last summer.  Americans will pay to watch good soccer.[/quote]

Or they'll pay to see brand names of clubs trotting out their second-stringers for preseason soccer in 90-degree weather, and they won't care if it's disjointed crap because the clubs are famous.

Look -- at some point, people need to get over themselves. MLS can't please everyone. They brought over David Beckham and Thierry Henry when they were near their primes, and while it was great for a lot of people, others scoffed that MLS is a retirement league. They brought over Sebastian Giovinco IN his prime, and people think he must stink now that he's in MLS.

These days, MLS is getting tons of talent from the Americas -- Argentina, Colombia, Costa Rica, etc. That's not bad. Some teams are great to watch. Some aren't. D.C., unfortunately, has been in the latter category for some time.

But if you think you can hold your nose up and pat yourself on the back because you're aware that Man City and Barcelona are better than D.C. United, just be aware that you're well past the days of being able to command respect just by naming a couple of big names in Europe.[/quote]

I think there are plenty of fans in Airtricity(Ireland Soccer League) and Allsvenskan(Swedish Soccer League) that watch the Bundesliga(German) and Premier League(UK) for lack of quality in their leagues.  There is nothing wrong watching another nation's sports league, and one could argue the Premier League is more South & Western European and South American than it is English, at least for the top 6 clubs.  I am with the people that have the opinion that we are limited to a few hours of discretionary sports watching, as oppose to the required happenings of the NFL for office conversation, and would rather watch the matches the have higher potential of being quality matches.  There are some real snoozers in La Liga, Seria A, and Bundesliga and some poor lineups that result in poor soccer, but for MLS the overall quality is low, so you will see players miss a pass, receive with the wrong foot or have their lob passes go too wide or simply not executed at all because the players don't know how, the finishing in MLS is also poor.  I have watched MLS games, and I do feel like I'm watching a youth soccer game, it's just not to the level of professional standards that we can find on Bein sports or NBC mornings.  I choose to not watch MLS, and until the quality level rises, I probably will not look forward and try to schedule my weekends around MLS games.  I am looking forward to Dec. 23rd and already made sure that day is free of commitment, I just don't see myself ever being that hyped for an MLS game.[/quote]

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