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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The government also has an interest in running well, which surpasses DC’s interests.  As it should.  Federal employees are not going to turn around CRE. That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.  Private sector is hiring and figuring out ways to deal with the labor market that exists.  The government needs to follow their lead if they want to retain or hire. Commercial real estate investors can pivot to the burbs.  Everyone else did.[/quote]

+ My private sector DH and neighbors are all still full time WAH. And they make a lot more than me. Making GS level employees like me go into DC even a few days a week isn’t going to save CRE or failing businesses. We don’t collectively make enough to keep DC afloat and the government risks losing good employees to private sector jobs. Even if they land in a private sector job that requires in office days, they’ll make more $ to counteract the commute.

WAH is basically the reason I’m at my job as a working mom of 3. This literally could be the difference of whether I stay in government, possibly even the workforce. (Before you ask, my kids were in daycare before the pandemic so commuting wasn’t as bad). But now that they are school age and their school has an extended day waitlist we haven’t been able to make it off for 3 years (employee shortage due to the post-COVID labor market) and they have early activities beginning around 5 pm, I have really come to rely on WAH. (DH also WAH but can’t start/end his day early like me). I know I’m not alone and collectively the government could lose a lot of qualified employees.[/quote]

Someone else would happily do your job. None of us are owed or entitled to federal employment.[/quote]

You are absolutely wrong about this.  Yes, someone without my qualifications and experience would be happy to have the money.  But they can’t do the job. So there’s the rub.[/quote]

There is truth to this. We are struggling to hire already because by the time our byzantine hiring process allows us to make an offer, most of the qualified candidates have already taken other jobs. The most qualified candidates are people with graduate degrees and experience who often aren't willing to move to DC for a GS-11 or 12 salary. If you require more than the current minimum of in-office time, you're going to have to replace those experienced people making weekly trips from other locations with people just out of school who don't need to worry about dual careers or the costs that come with having a family. [/quote]

I agree that recruitment and retention is a challenge with RTO.  I also think that the federal government has entire agencies that have all of the data on federal employment, private employment, job markets, and trends. They look at the aggregate and across a lot of dimensions.  They know, at least better than all of us, what the impact has been and will be.  It isn’t like they aren’t aware when they set policy.  [b]Presumably they concluded that the benefit of bringing federal employees back to the office somewhat more frequently outweighs the cons[/b].[/quote]

Ha!  No they didn’t!  This is some sort of giveaway to someone and has nothing to do with the benefit to employees or the economy.[/quote]

I'm not at all sure how to engage with this speculation.[/quote]

Are you using ChatGPT to have a policy discussion or something?  Because welcome to the future of government when all of the brains leave.  FFS.[/quote]

And to be clear, do you think that stating a speculative theory in one sentence counts as engaging in a "policy discussion"?[/quote]

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