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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]China and India alone have almost 3 billion citizens.

Chinese immigrants number about 2 million a year to the US.  Immigrants from India have about the same numbers.

These immigrants come here for education and better quality of life.  They are a tiny percentage of Asians but they are the most likely to be hardest working with some money and family connections.

I have a friend who came here from China as a child. We have children in the same grade and are close.  The rest of her extended family will not allow their children to be friends with American children.   They see Americans as lazy and a distraction.

It’s a different culture and with that amount of people the Asian population could easily fill MIT, Harvard, etc a thousand times over.  What are they supposed to do, especially if most of them go back to their country of origin?  [/quote]

I don’t understand the question…what are they supposed to do about what?

Why should we be sympathetic to the families that won’t assimilate?[/quote]

What are you talking about
They are the ones who assimilate to the American way and American dream - hardworking and competition

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No, the American way (which is what has made this country historically such a great place)…is that you are proud of your heritage but you are now an American and you want to embrace the country in its entirety (foibles and all).  If America evolved with just a bunch of ethnic cliques keeping to themselves, the country would have a much lower GDP and overall quality of life.

Help us really understand why you are immigrating here.  Someone posted a list of top engineering schools and 13/20 were in Asia, so no need to go to college in the US (in fact why would you?).  If you apparently hate the people and the system…help us understand.

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What are you talking about
Working hard and fair competition is not just the American way, it should be applied to everywhere
Since you asked, personally I followed my parents when I was a minor, and my kids were born here like you I guess.  
I don't hate anything.  I just found that the college admission system has a lot of flaws and room for improvements.  
It seems that the US Supreme Court would agree with me on some of them, and we'll see progress.  
Systems evolve.[/quote]

You are looking for a dictatorship. It is not here.

But go on with your tutoring. [/quote]

It seems that you don't understand the meaning of the word, dictatorship.
The colleges are acting like dictators when they are receiving all sorts of government aid and support.
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It is the colleges who get to decide who THEY want at THEIR school.  NOT the pushy parents. [/quote]
colleges shouldn't decide based on race, that's the point.  It's illegal to base anything on race, a protected class.[/quote]

You are correct, it should not be.  Most people (except Asians) believe it currently is not, except for URMs - please look up the meaning of URM.

Point being, if all of one kind come to the U.S. at once, and most expect to be admitted, it is not going to happen. It has been this way for generations.  You were given bad information, and now you want that information to be true, when it is not. [/quote]

And for every "asian" rejected, there are many more who are also rejected.  Because 95% of those who apply are rejected.  Harvard (and most other T20s) see the benefits of offering admission to the low income kid from a HS with 85% FARMS who has managed to overcome so much based simply on where they were born and the education system they grew up in, who is valedictorian, a leader and has the drive to succeed.  Just so happens that many times that kid is Black or Latino (or not Asian).  And yes, if that kid only gets a 1500, that is worth more as they didn't test prep, they didn't live the privileged life, they were in school with kids the majority of whom are not even going to graduate HS let alone go to any college.  They might have to work 20hr+/week to help pay the bills at home or take care of siblings or grandparents, etc.  The schools recognize how smart these kids are despite the struggles in daily life they have had.

Quite honestly, I would be embarrassed to be complaining about this if my kid didn't get into a T20 (and they did not---got WL at 2 and had 4 great choices in the 30-60 range)  I'm smart enough to recognize my kid grew up with privileges that most do not have, and they will continue to have and that my kid will do just fine at a non-T20 school, because of all of that.  
[b]Fact is there are not enough spaces, most get rejected, so it is not really about race, it's just sour grapes your kid wasn't lucky enough to win the lottery[/b]
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Colleges will continue to accept those that they know did not get the advantages of prep and tutors. Period. Like it or not. This includes the essays, by the way!

If you do not like the fact that there are not enough spaces, and that you are competing with your own people, your need to address it with your own people.  The fewer there are of one kind, the higher your chances of being admitted - BUT it is and will always be a lottery. Because (wait for it) THERE ARE SIMPLY NOT ENOUGH SPACES BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY APPLICANTS. [/quote]

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