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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]No tattoos, proper grammar, no smoking, well fitted and tasteful clothes, shoes not down at the heels, well spoken and thoughtful, not reactionary or too loud in appearance or demeanor, everyone in family has at least a Bachelor's, ability to discuss politics or world dynamics without getting personal or overly hysterical, limited and tasteful FB/special media posts[/quote]

Lots of upper class folks in worn shoes, especially among the waspy horsy types.[/quote]

Lots of people beyond upper middle class that smoke. It’s almost like a bell curve. [/quote]

Er, no. Smoking is an indicator that someone has no class. Regardless of the income/wealth level. You can't buy class, and a smoker doesn't have it.[/quote]

Everyone has a socioeconomic class. That's what we are discussing here. Not "is this classy?" [/quote]

SES is usually boiled down to your income, which is correlated with things like education and longevity. “Class” in the sense on this thread is your values and choices. There are plenty of loud, obnoxious, super-rich people. [/quote]

And there are plenty of meek, whispery, mousy,  little-kid-face-making, fake poor people. [/quote]

This is a weird flex, to punch down. What did the poor ever do to you?[/quote]

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