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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kudos to Jews and Asians and everyone else who has done well in America despite difficulties and prejudice and discrimination. The key thing for many of them was getting out of agricultural and menial labor and being able to own property and own businesses or enter professions that were not controlled by white patronage and have access to good education. You need to understand that it was different for black Americans. Long after slavery ended, the South was an oppressive police state that denied them education, freedom of movement, property rights, voting rights, and really every basic right. Even if they did move from the fields, they were laborers and menial servants. They were only allowed to live where white people did not want to live and only allowed to have jobs working for white people. A black middle class did develop in some cities and states but even they had to be careful to stay in their place. Pretty much every political, legal, financial institution in the U.S. was dedicated to keeping blacks in their place. [/quote]

Very well said but it’s falling on deaf ears. This has been explained countless times on DCUM but has never been acknowledged.

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That’s a great history lesson but the question posed above was if there are remaining systemic barriers to blacks progressing then why are black immigrants from Africa, the Caribbean and elsewhere flourishing whilst African-Americans seem to be going backwards? 
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It is just not true that blacks are going backwards. Black women, in particular, are doing much, much better than ever, so much so that all the racists are upset that, with less discrimination today, so many of them are getting jobs in the government and so many are going to college. This whole thread is about keeping black women in their place. [/quote]
Oh, FFS. First, having a fair and neutral policy is about keeping "black people in their place," and now it's about "keeping black WOMEN in their place?"

No, if it were about that, the proposal (OP here, btw) would be that since blacks have benefitted from AA since the 1970s, it is now time to reverse that and apply that benefits to whites (poor whites). Blacks would not be eligible.

But that is NOT what this is about. Black kids who do very well in school, as measured by their own cohort (so that those in poor DC schools with lousy teachers are not competing against the wealthier kids from W schools), will not only get a big assist in admissions, but they will get their way paid as well. A free college education.

The only problem is that poor whites can benefit, too, due to the race-blindness aspect. And that, despite the racists on here who say demeaning things about poor white people, is a GOOD thing.

And finally, remember....if those of you who are saying that community college is good enough for a white boy (with excellent grades), why isn't community college good enough for a black boy with OK grades? There are astronauts who started at CC! It's not a death sentence - for blacks or whites.

I am honestly fed up with you people who are accusing someone (like me). who wants a race-neutral policy that would advantage blacks and whites both, a racist - and then calling poor whites "white trash" (or overlooking those that do). I do see a lot of racism on this thread, and much of it is against poor whites. [/quote]

OP. I have asked before and I ask again. Why are you so focused on race-based decisions that colleges make but not other factors (athletics, musical achievement, legacy, geographic diversity, etc). Why is only one of the factors that colleges are allowed to consider in creating their class a problem for you?  Why do you believe your “White kid’s slot” is taken over by an underachieving black child of a two doctor family rather than his next door neighbor who happens to be a white double legacy?  [/quote]

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