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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Liberal pro-Hilary highly educated white collar working living in the rust belt, after some time all over east coast (and lots of international travel)....this thread is so clueless.  The stereotyping is insane.  Also, this isn't 'rust belt' versus east coast, it is urban v. rural....take a look at a blue/red map.

And what do I think it will take to fix this problem?  We have a problem with wealth accumulation in this country.  We need to invest in our working class, our poor and our middle class.  The hollowing out isn't of the rust belt, it is off the middle class period.   We need to re-invest in what has been abandon.

Sadly, the Republicans are the least likely to do this.      
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+1. Finally someone who makes some sense and has some idea what they are talking about (in stark contrast to the "shale" poster).  [/quote]

+1. Or, as Warren Buffet said, "You don't need 4% GDP growth, you can do much better with better distribution of 2% GDP growth." The US as a whole needs fewer third- fourth- fifth-rate colleges, and more of a well-designed, adaptable vocational training program, country-wide. Support the creating of a high-skilled middle class (that doesn't mean [b]hedge fund analysts)[/b].[/quote]

yes, but what it also needs is progressive tax rates as such that salary between hedge fund analysts and auto-mechanic are not that large - maybe 3x at most after taxes and transfers.

as a former forex trader, being a HF analyst (and most finance jobs) are fucking boring. sitting at a desk all day, eating like shit, with 6 screens staring in your face like you are some lab rat is not self actualizing.

I also tool around in my car - if i could go back, and i knew i could make 6 figures as a 'wrench' (including some sort of wage support to get to that six figures) I would've been happier being an auto mechanic professionally.

in places like germany the delta in income between white and blue collar isn't so large as it is here[/quote]

True.  I grew up in Germany.  In Germany, professionals still make good money.  Doctors, corporate officials and attorneys drive around in Mercedes and BMWs and have nice big houses, travel for vacation, go out to dinner and theater, have all the perks of excellent living.  But they don't feel the need to be multimillionaires like Americans do.  Blue collar workers on the other hand aren't at the poverty level like they are here.[/quote]
We often have medical fellows from Europe do a rotation at our hospital and they are always floored by doctors' salaries in the US. Several decided to move to train in America afterwards.  :D [/quote]
If you are lower/middle class, livinging in a socialist country like somewhere in Europe is better -  no worries about healthcare and college costs.   If you are wealthy, living in the US is better - less taxes and pay at the upper scale is a lot higher.[/quote]

FFS.  Socialist?  Do words even have meaning in Trumpworld?[/quote]

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