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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]South Africa has issues but could hardly be described as unsuccessful. [/quote]

Yes, I wonder what was different about South Africa...[/quote]

Perhaps people like Nelson Mandela and Desmond Tutu plus quantities old gold and diamonds that weren't completely depleted by colonial powers.[/quote]

Most african nations were depleted and then left in a state of poor agriculture, no infrastructure, and no industry, i.e. no functioning economy.  The better off black nations transitioned to states with functioning economies.[/quote]

So then what happened with Zimbabwe? When the British pulled out it was producing so much agriculture it was called Africa's breadbasket. Under Mugabe, farming has all but stopped and now the citizens are starving.

You can't blame EVERYTHING on white people.[/quote]
Unfortunately, a crazy madman took over.  When you have a population that was not allowed to thrive, left uneducated and poor, you get a crazy person who can easily take over.

Korea had a huge uneducated population prior to 80's maybe even 90's. It was largely agricultural prior to the 60's.  Japan colonized Korea for over 30y rs.   The only reason S. Korea was able to thritve was because 1. it had a lot of financial help from the US  after the country was decimated 2. it had a military rule for a long time, and the continued backing of the US military such that there was no way a crazy person was going to be able to take over. Before the late 80's/early 90's, that country was not doing so well.

Look at N. Korea.  It was left to fend for itself, and look what happened?  You got a crazy leader (more like, family) and a largely uneducated population. I'm not saying all poor, former colonies end up with crazy leaders, obviously.  But, I think such countries are easy pickings for crazy leaders to take over.  Many countries have been fortunate enough to escape that end, but unfortunately, others haven't.

Similar things have happened in Eastern Europe, btw.  Hungary was one such example.  Though we don't call it "colonized", I think being part of the USSR is kind of like colonialism.[/quote]

Reason #3 why South Korea was able to thrive; the average Korean has an IQ of 105.[/quote]
You missed the point *entirely*.  Why then didn't N. Korea thrive?  Because they have a batshit crazy leader that won't let that country grow.  Believe me, the healthy N. Koreans on average are no less intelligent than S. Koreans. But, now, with massive malnutrition, you can bet their average IQ is going down, along with their stature; they are on average shorter than S. Koreans.

IQ tests also have a component where exposure to more academics increases your chance of getting a higher IQ score.  Do you know how many hours the average S. Korean student studies as part of school and after school cram schools?  Some cram schools go way passed midnight.

I'm from S. Korea. I don't think people from S. Korea are any smarter or dumber than other countries. S. Koreans just place a high importance on education. It's the only way for average people there to get a great job. They are all about test scores and what university you went to (which is all based on test scores).  I'm very thankful my kids are growing up and being educated in the US, as are a lot of Koreans here.[/quote]

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