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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Because she is so hungry for the power of the presidency that she is will to do anything or say anything to get it.  She will take any position or lie to anyone if it increases her chances of being elected president.

This applies equally to Trump and most politicians of course.[/quote]

If you hold this view, how do you ever vote for anyone, for any position?[/quote]

To me Obama seemed to actually have some deeply held beliefs and wanted to try to make the world a better place.  I certain disagree with some of those beliefs or the methods by which he tried to obtain them, but with Hillary I don't actually have any idea what her true beliefs are.  I don't even know if she has any, I think that she really just wants power for its own sake.  To me this is the true evil.
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I don't understand how you can say this? She has worked tirelessly for health care reform, for women and girls concerns around the world, and more. Here is a PBS biography of her that pre-dates her current run. PBS seems like a neutral source. It opens:

"A tough and pragmatic leader, [b]outspoken advocate for social justice and women's rights,[/b] and resilient and intelligent politician, Hillary Rodham Clinton has achieved many "firsts" in her roles as First Lady of the United States, U.S. Senator, presidential candidate, and Secretary of State. As she put it in her 2003 memoir Living History, "My mother and my grandmothers could never have lived my life; my father and my grandfathers could never have imagined it. But they bestowed on me the promise of America, which made my life and my choices possible."

The whole thing: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/biography/clinton-hillary/

Besides healthcare reform (dubbed "HillaryCare") in the first term, her second term as first lady had the following focus areas:

"During Bill's second term, Hillary cultivated a more traditional profile. [b]She continued to focus on health and welfare issues, especially those involving children, and in 1997, supported the passage and rollout of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), which expanded health insurance for children in lower-income families. She was instrumental in the enactment of the Adoption and Safe Families Act, legislation that eased the removal of children from abusive situations.
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[b]Hillary helped create the Department of Justice's Office on Violence Against Women in 1994, and during her travels to more than 80 countries she was a forceful advocate for women's rights[/b]. In 1995, during an unprecedented address in Beijing to the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women, Hillary recounted worldwide abuses and declared "It is time for us to say here in Beijing, and for the world to hear, that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights."

Her beliefs and priorities - social justice, health care form, and equal rights for women and girls come through.

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That's all generic.  Those women are hypothetical.  When it came to the actual women whom her husband assaulted and raped and generally abused, she did nothing to defend them.

You don't get to do that and still pretend you are a feminist.[/quote]

You don't get to say a woman's husband allegedly sexually assaulted other women because his wife was too ugly to have sex with and call YOURSELF a feminist. [/quote]

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