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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I think the first and formost responsibility of any nation state is to protect the welfare of all of its citizens.  No matter my personal feelings on undocumented immigrants, undocumented immigration clearly disrupts the labor market for unskilled and uneducated workers in this country.

Sure, I get cheap oranges and chicken breasts, but my fellow Americans lose their jobs and have their wages depressed.

Thus, no matter how noble the efforts of undocumented immigrants to get here, I cannot support it. [/quote]

The problem with your 'argument' is simple, most of the labor jobs won't be filled by Americans even at good wages. Companies that require skilled craftsman and in the absence of trained people then advertise for apprentices often find no takers and those they do sign on leave. As a whole the work ethic of the unskilled and under educated, no American should be uneducated, isn't there. Nor is there much interest.[/quote]

Then the wage must rise. Everything has a price. And if a job has no interest as the current advertised price (wage), then the price (the wage must rise). This isn't rocket science [/quote]

Wrong. We have the richest poor people in the world and a fairly large portion of them are content. They are not going to go out and work on a road crew, do roofing, welding, work on farms, etc. because they have no incentive and many have no work ethic. The undocumented, they work to survive and provide for their families. Immigrants to our nation over the past 200 years worked to improve their lives and were a vital part of our growth. Now, we need millions sneaking in because we have millions unwilling to work at jobs that would require discipline and sacrifice.[/quote]

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