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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=jsteele][quote=Anonymous]Was the Imam who spoke in Orlando of gays needing to be killed , mentally ill? How about the Imam of the Mosque that invited him? Mentally ill? The people that listened to him without saying "Hey, you need to leave NOW"? Mentally ill?[/quote]

I don't know the mental state of any of them. But, they are in the same boat as the Christian paster I mentioned in the second post of this thread who called for killing gays while Mike Huckabee and Ted Cruz listened with no objection (or objection from you). All of them are sick as far as I'm concerned.
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But not as far as any psychologist is concerned. The vast vast majority of people doing mass killings are not considered mentally ill. That's hard to swallow, but it's true. And only once you acknowledge that can you start to fix the problem.[/quote]

Cite please?  I think the vast vast majority of people doing mass killings are considered to have personality disorders, which is mental illness in my book.[/quote]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/16/opinion/dont-blame-mental-illness-for-gun-violence.html?_r=0

"According to one epidemiological estimate, entirely eliminating the effects of mental illness would reduce all violence by only 4 percent. Over all, less than 5 percent of gun homicides between 2001 and 2010 were committed by people with diagnoses of mental illness, according to a public health study published this year."[/quote]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4318286/

"connections between mental illness and gun violence are less causal and more complex than current US public opinion and legislative action allow. US gun rights advocates are fond of the phrase “guns don’t kill people, people do.” The findings cited earlier in this article suggest that neither guns nor people exist in isolation from social or historical influences. A growing body of data reveals that US gun crime happens when guns and people come together in particular, destructive ways. That is to say, gun violence in all its forms has a social context, and that context is not something that “mental illness” can describe nor that mental health practitioners can be expected to address in isolation."[/quote]

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