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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes, but by forcing yourself in the women's restrooms you are saying your rights are more important.  Because you will feel safe but we will not.[/quote]

There are no cases of trans women attacking cis women in bathrooms.  Your irrational fear of trans people just trying to use the toilet is not OPs problem.[/quote]

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I don't see where that was a transwoman -- you do know that, just because a man puts on a woman's suit, that doesn't make him a transwoman, right?

Also, that happened 6 years ago -- pretty sure these bathroom policies weren't in effect then.  So I'm not sure how this makes you less safe?[/quote]

Even though I complete support anybody coming into the woman's room who doesn't make a mess, I wish people would not make this ludicrous argument.  When a male presenting as a woman walks into a woman's room, nobody can tell if they are trans or not.  Of course, if it is a trans person you know, then you know.  But if you are in a rural national park and some stranger presenting as a woman walks in, you have no idea if they are trans or just a creep.  So, while there are many good arguements that transwomen should be allowed to use the woman's room, this is not one of them.[/quote]

But how can you tell that it's a man presenting as a woman in the first place? Are you studying everyone who comes into the bathroom? Asking to see their genitalia?

And if you are attacked in a bathroom - whether it's by a man pretending to be a woman, a transgender, or a woman - it is a crime all the same. That can be prosecuted even without a bathroom law. [/quote]

The fact that it is a crime that can be prosecuted doesn't make the victim feel any better.  Either there is no reason at all to have anything but unisex bathrooms, or there is and women can feel something (threatened? embarrassed? exposed?) when somebody they think is a man comes in.  The fact that no transgender man has ever hurt a woman is irrelevent because the woman can not tell if the person is transgender or just a creep.  Maybe this is just an argument for unisex bath rooms, but frankly, as a ciswoman, I think there is a non-negligile fractoin of men who are just messy, and I don't want to share with them.  On the sitcom "Mozart in the jungle", the cismale conductor keeps trying to use the woman's room just because it is cleaner.  I have to agree with him.  I wouldn't want to share with men just because enough of them are messy to cause a problem.[/quote]

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