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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]8% raises would be insane...especially for a teacher who has summers off and a tremendous amount of vacation days (winter and spring break, holidays).[/quote]

[b]Many of us work over our breaks - planning and grading.  [/b]

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But people in private industry work weekends and way past 8 hours a day. I'm the daughter of a teacher and my mother worked plenty when she wasn't "supposed" to. This argument is weak. It's not like teaching is the only profession that requires overtime.

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fine

I didn't say I'm in this as a competition.  People make choices.

I teach.  Others choose law or medicine or engineering or communications.

I've been on the other side.  I commuted about 2.5 hours each day and worked 9 to 5.    Now my commute is 30 minutes.  My husband is at work in 20 minutes.

Again, we're doing what's best for our family.  But I'm not making $200K on my own.  I have friends who make that much or more.

again, choices

I'm surprised by your attitude, however - considering you're the child of a teacher.  I would think you would have more respect for the profession.  [/quote]

I respect the profession, but nobody likes a whiner.

My MIL is a retired teacher, and she understands that she has a pension and Cadillac health benefits that most of peers do not. She recognizes that she was able to be home for the bus stop pick up and off on summers, while her peers did not. She has never whined about her profession, her pay, or her benefits.

Can you name another profession where people whine as much? I can't. Does the teachers lounge foster such kvetching? [/quote]

Your MIL is retired and probably left under the OLD system.  Ask her to tell you about the "old" system versus our current system.

Furthermore, what did your FIL do?  Was he a teacher?  I find that the most comfortable teachers (retired or working) have spouses (husbands or wives) with high-paying careers.  So retirement isn't something to worry about.

There are many factors at play here.  Why not talk to a current ESOL teacher in a high-FARMs school and then come back and post.

But please don't think that you MIL speaks for all of us.  For someone who probably claims to be educated, you make a big generalization based in ignorance.[/quote]

FIL was a teacher, too. They retired within the last couple years.

I can't follow the rest of your post. My criticism is of the constant whining.

Didn't the ESOL teacher know what she was gettin into when she earned her degree and accepted the position?

I have two teacher friends who proactively sought jobs at title I schools because they enjoy the small class size and working with the children (and families) who tend to appreciate them...so I don't understand your point, pp.

As others have pointed out, lots of people have challenging jobs, earn less money, and manage not to whine.

Nurses
Social Workers
Nursing Home Caregivers
Aides who care for the elderly and people with special needs
Homeless Service Providers
Hospice Care Workers 
Legal Aid Attorneys

And they work 12 months a year, don't have Cadillac health insurance, don't get weeks off for Christmas and Easter, etc.

Do the math and compare the hourly rate for a teacher salary vs. another profession...you work less and get paid much more.

Teachers know the drill before they accept the job. There will never be a teacher shortage in mcps because it's common knowledge that mcps pays well and provides excellent benefits. As a pp already said, it's a sweet gig. She and her teacher husband are doing great, and they have summers off.

Just to clarify: the vast majority of the population respects teachers...just like we respect nurses and legal aid lawyers...we just find the whining irritating. If you don't like your job and think you are underpaid, then move on. But please don't debate the issue without acknowledging the myriad other professions that are uber challenging and pay far less. [/quote]

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