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Yes.  The bolded indicated that every kid was given the test, and the ones who scored very high were then referred to IQ testing.  It indicates that identifying a kid as gifted was solely reliant on test results.

The HGC test is to identify those that are "gifted" for entry into the program. So, just as they did, don't rely on parental  or teacher input.  Have every kid take the test, and admit purely by test scores.

That won't go over very well.[/quote]

No, the HGC [u]application[/u] is to identify those who are "highly gifted" (whatever that means, and everybody has a different idea) for entry into the program. The whole application. Not just the test results.[/quote]

The PP posted the article indicating that more URM kids were identified as gifted simply by having all kids take the test, and devoid of any parental or teacher input.  So, I am saying let's do the same thing here:   have all kids take the HGC test.  That alone should determine who gets in.  You can decline if you don't want to go, but like the other case, that one test alone should identify who is gifted, and thereby, who gets in.

It would also help the home school teacher know which kids need more acceleration based on the test scores.[/quote]

In theory it sounds good the problem is too many parents are gaming the test system. As discussed, their are a group of Asians having intense test prep prior to the HGC exam.  I think bringing back the Raven IQ in second grade would be best and do not tell the parents in advance when the test is given to limit the prep people.  [/quote]
Pp here.  I agree with you, that's why I also stated earlier that using this measure alone would not go over well.  I stated that we should do this same thing (rely only on tests) in jest.

It doesn't matter when the kid takes the test, and whether the parent knows when it is.  They will still prep.

It won't matter if we rely on the InView or the HGC test alone, there is no sure fire way to make it completely equitable because life isn't equitable.  Some kids will have been "prepped" at home by parents who provide enriching activities like puzzles and what not, which helps with cognitive abilities.  The only way to make it equitable is to put all kids in a state run facility the minute they are born, and they are all treated exactly the same.  Never going to happen, either.[/quote]

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