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What I can say about Sanders is that he has been consistent on women's issues for his entire career which leads me to believe that he would continue in that regard. Clinton, as Secretary of State, had a much larger stage on which to do positive work for women around the world. Sanders has shown that he is not willing to compromise when it comes to legislation that will benefit women. Welfare reform was a big deal which Clinton supporters seem to want to minimize. Are we not interested in poor women? Are we only interested in pay equity for high earning women and in breaking the glass ceiling?  In my book, a feminist must not compromise on the interests of impoverished women.

If I have time, i will write a longer post about where the two candidates have differed on women's interests but right now I cannot go into detail.[/quote]

I think this comes to the heart of the difference between Clinton and Sanders.  Clinton, particularly as SoS, has been in a position where she has responsibilities to implement and execute, not just design policy.  Even as FLOTUS, and very likely a close confidante of her husband, she had to balance getting something done against holding out for the ideological perfect.  I spent too long in DC to believe you can get everything you want when making the proverbial sausage...and I respect that Clinton has had to make choices and do things that are less than ideal.  I understand that other people feel differently, or they have different lines that they are unwilling to cross than I do, but please recognize that this is the reality of the political and governance process.  A lot of people in this country, and the world, disagree with what you think is "right".  You can make the choice not to support a candidate who has willingly worked with those people to pass legislation or make policy (domestic and foreign), but you should recognize that not everyone will make the same choice.  I view Clinton's ability to find compromises that move policy forward as an asset...others obviously view it as a liability.  I just wish, though, that people would stop calling her two-faced and pandering instead of realizing that this is a necessity when making policy.  Something I know firsthand from having had to negotiate policies myself and then being excoriating (in a much more insular and private platform, but still) for the compromises I had to make...never being given credit for how much worse it would have been if I hadn't been in the conversation or had refused to negotiate at all.[/quote]

OP here. I want to thank you and the pp above for engaging in respectful, intelligent discussion about the real issue here instead of saying silly things to try to trap me into admitting that I contradicted myself and making ridiculous comments like "methinks you walked into that one." I have no interest in defending myself.

We are discussing who is the better candidate for women. I do agree that having a woman president is a great step for women in and of itself. Nevertheless, I want very much to see a president who is really going to implement pro-woman policy and my trust in Clinton to do that is very low. I worry that she will do more harm than good. I do understand the need for compromise and I really can't say what Sanders would be able to accomplish or what overall effects he mights have on government if he were president. We are all guessing but if you look at his record, it is one that I trust whereas it looks like Clinton could go either way on many things.[/quote]

OP, your whole initial post was an attack on Clinton. It certainly did not scream "respectful, intelligent discussion." Go back and re-read it. That aside, you yourself set forth a definition for what a good feminist does. And I asked you twice, what exactly has Sanders done to meet that definition. Why don't you answer that? [/quote]

It is not an attack to say that Clinton is not a real feminist. I already told you that Sanders has been consistent in his policy regarding women's interests and Clinton has not. I am not attacking anyone. I am expressing an opinion and I have not been disrespectful in any way. [/quote]

Ok then.[/quote]

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