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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PS I also think it is telling that OP has constructed a very solid argument citing Biblical text itself and that the people arguing with her (or him) cannot so much as cite a book that opposes her stance.[/quote] We have opposed it, several times in this thread. All of the following points have began made on this thread: - apostle =\= prophet speaking for God - spreading the gospels =\= developing advice for new parishes on things that were not in the gospels - we have - "Grace and peace from God" are said in every church across the country every Sunday. They never mean the speaker is a mouthpiece for God.[/quote] Nobody has ever addressed any of these points. You keep repeating that the quotes sum up to "speaking for God" but these points are why we (and many theologians, apparently) don't believe he thought he was speaking for God on more than the gospels themselves. So could you please try to address these, so we can stop going back and forth?[/quote] These points have been addressed, by myself and others, numerous times, on two threads. They are mostly arguments about semantics and definitions that honestly, I really don't care about. So we've gone back and forth. I don't really have any illusions about changing your position, so there's really no point discussing it further unless there is something new to be said, some new point to be made, someone else's view to be discussed. I think the plain Biblical language trumps these issues. You don't. It's ok.[/quote] Do you see, we think you're engaging in semantics about words like "apostle" and "spreading the gospel" and "peace from God." And you're right, that's OK. (although I do have a problem when literalist interpretations extend to Psyl's sayings on homosexuality. I'm not even LGBT, FWIW.)[/quote] And this is the crux of the argument denying Paul's authority. You don't like the teaching on homosexuality, so you're looking for a reason you don't have to follow it.[/quote]
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