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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is informative: It's more detailed that the DSM standard fare, and provides examples of what they consider to be abnormal socially:

https://depts.washington.edu/dbpeds/Screening%20Tools/DSM-5%28ASD.Guidelines%29Feb2013.pdf

Absence of interest in others
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Lack of interest in peers
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Withdrawn; aloof; in own world
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Limited interest in others;
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Unaware or oblivious to children or adults
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Limited interaction with others
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Prefers solitary activities[/quote]

Ah yes, selective quoting.  You forgot it starts with "ranging from difficulties adjusting behavior to suit different social contexts through difficulties in sharing imaginative play and in making friends to an apparent absence of interest in people" and then lists 3 or 4 dozen other things posters have been saying, with these as the examples of "absence of interest in people"[/quote]

OK so, what I am trying to say is that I question the whole notion of a disorder that can include both children who are very socially motivated, and children who have an absence of interest in people.  I was quoting those parts of the DSM 5 that include lack of interest in people, not arguing that the DSM 5 requires lack of interest.  My whole point is to question the DSM definition.[/quote]

There are lots of disorders that can include people who are socially motivated, and people who have an absence of interest in people*.  For example, people in both categories can have broken arms, or high blood pressure, or language disorders, or schizophrenia.

* Note: Not demonstrating interest in people, is not the same thing as not being socially motivated, but I'm putting that aside for now. [/quote]

The point is that DSM diagnosis are *not* like broken arms - they are essentially a set of symptoms, not a biologically defined condition.  So when you lump seemingly disparate sets of symptoms together, as does the DSM V definition of autism, and call it a "spectrum," you do have to start to wonder about the integrity of the category.  The analogy would be like there is a disorder called "the arm pain spectrum" but it included broken arms, muscle soreness, and arthritis.  [/quote]

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