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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Meh. I grew up in NC, and UNC was strictly a safety school for top tier kids, who tried for Duke, Davidson or Wake. My sister who was an okay student went, and is also in the meh category. It it tough to get into OOS, no doubt. But once you're there, you are with a class that is 80% in state.

If I had a kid with the stats to get in from OOS, and was looking at paying OOS tuition, I would send them to Duke or Wake instead. Or any number of other private universities with stronger academics. I see the instate upside-- $$$$ & flagship state U. I do not see any upside for an OOS student.

PS and if you want STEM or engineering, NC state is stronger anyway. [/quote]

Wake is only ranked 3 points higher than UNC. How in the world would that make UNC qualify as a strictly "safety school" for Wake?  Especially since the larger size would probably make it more appealing to a considerable number of applicants anyways. [/quote]

First, lots of kids don't want an enormous college. Second, if you are an in state student, Wake is considerably harder to get into than UNC. Which tells you something about the quality of the 80% of the student body.  I know what the price premium for Wake gets you over UNC in state tuition-- I went and my non-science intro classes were capped at 20. My major level classes often had 10 or fewer. All of my professors knew my name, and very tofew were adjunct. I did 3 independent studies, where I essentially designed my own class with a faculty member in a specialized area, and met with them a couple of hours a week.  And yes, the facilities are nice. I am very sketchy at what UNC at OOS prices get you.  Members of my family attended UNC, and they are too. [/quote]

Again, a school that is ranked 3 points below another is not a strict "safety school".  Also UNC has an admissions rate of 28% rate and Wake Forest's is 34%, UNC's average incoming GPA is a 4.59, whereas Wake Forest doesn't report theirs, and their SAT averages are virtually identical.  So how exactly again is Wake Forest "considerably harder to get into" than UNC?[/quote]

Let me guess?  Former UNC student not that into reading comp or math?  If stats are "about the same" on average, then Wake is more select for instate students. But probably less for OOS. The number you are referring to blends both. And with the OOS admissions cap, the gap between IS  and OOS admissions stats is huge. The OOS students pull up UNCs numbers.  But instate yes, UNC is safety for the top 10%. [/quote]

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