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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Why should there be a written reference to Jesus during this lifetime? He was just a fairly insignificant Jewish peasant preacher while he was alive. Once his movement grew after his death, written references began to appear.[/quote] If a person is changing water into wine and resurrecting the dead, one would THINK those stories would be capture by literate folks. [/quote] No National Inquirer back in those days.[/quote] lots of gossip though, and stone carvings -- but none of Jesus until much later -- and quess what -- they looked amazingly like other ancient gods, complete with death on a cross, virgin birth and resurrection. [/quote] Can always count on you Groundhog! Gossip abounded I am sure, but by nature it is evanescent and seldom leaves historical traces.[/quote] So . . . you're saying to one of the many groundhogs that you DON'T belief in scientific fact? that stone carvings mean nothing to you? (primary artifacts) that cultural crossover never existed? that more powerful groups did NOT steal from weaker groups? I'm glad you think homeschooling worked for you, PP. must be a nice little fantasy world you live in[/quote] Sorry, Groundhog, my comment did not go to the part of your remark on carvings. Yes ancient inscriptions are very informative when they exist. But many did not survive over time or have not been uncovered. And given Jesus's background and that of his followers the inscriptions likely would have been more in the form of graffiti, a type of carving that is perhaps least likely to survive. You cannot conclude with certainty that something did not happen simply because there are no inscriptions. But I knew you were Groundhog because of this part of your response: "they looked amazingly like other ancient gods, complete with death on a cross, virgin birth and resurrection." You didn't specifically mention Horus or Mithras because we have outed you so many times on those, but [b]we knew what you were thinking[/b].... [/quote] Are there people here who post as part of a group, or is this the "royal we" ?[/quote] No, [b]there a couple of independent posters[/b], who have engaged in Groundhog hunting here. At one point Groundhog complained to Jeff about sock puppeting and Jeff was able to identify three or four different posters who were responding to her unusual takes on the origin of Christianity, all strictly on the grounds of faulty history. Groundhog appears to think they are all homeschooled fundamentalist Christians, but not one of the Groundhog hunters has ever used the Bible to refute her theories.[/quote] How can you tell they are independent?[/quote] I know they are independent because I am one of them and there are other posts not from me going after Groundhog. But more convincingly Groundhog asked Jeff to investigate and Jeff found there were multiple Groundhog hunters.[/quote]
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