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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]American citizens are right to hault the Syrian refugees without knowing more about vetting. However, the genie is out of the bottle now. Europeans can freely enter our country, and they were the attackers in Paris. [/quote]

We've had 300 killed and injured in mass shooter incidents this year in the U.S.  Of those, four deaths and three injuries were caused by Muslims.   Draw Muhammad and the Chatanooga Navy recruitment center.   Statistically, we are most at risk by run-of-the-mill young, white, non-Muslim men.   Based on 2015 stats, we each have about a 0.000002% risk of being killed or injured by an Islamic terrorist.   Fewer than 20 Americans are killed worldwide by terrorists each year, and that includes in war zones.  Is it really worth shutting down an existing refugee program that has a 2 year vetting process because of such an almost-insignificant risk?[/quote]

Crunch your numbers for those OUTSIDE of the US.  Are the stats higher, lower or the same.

just curious, as I'm NOT a numbers person[/quote]

I don't know the number of Americans outside the country at any given time.   But I think it's important to realize fewer than 20 Americans total are the victims of Islamic terrorist anywhere in the world each year.  We have 320 million Americans total.   The risk is overwhelmingly low.  I realize ISIS is scary and sick.  They are.   But 30,000 Americans die each year in car accidents.  Another 30,000 die from guns.   Another 25,000 die from flu.    [/quote]

Yes, but we can be proactive about driving deaths and the flu - and even, to some extent, about guns.  We cannot be proactive about ISIS - or other terrorists - as they're not easy to track.  That's the goal - to create terror and to strike when it's least expected.

By inviting more people in, however, you increase the chances, yes?  Statistics will show you that, I'm sure.

I think back to the sniper.  People didn't want to live in fear of this homegrown terrorist.   We went about our business - getting gas, driving to work, taking the metro into DC.  But think of the 13 people harmed in our area; only three survived.

why?  jihad against the US

10 people whose lives - based on your post - are meaningless, right?  I don't care if "fewer than 20 Americans are killed."  These are husbands, sisters, mothers, uncles, you name it.

Why add more people to the guest list?  [/quote]

I never said any life is meaningless.  That's really not fair.    I wonder why we compromise our values as a nation for minuscule risk.  There is a difference.    As people have pointed out multiple times on this forum, we are more at risk from terrorists who hold European passports and who can just buy a ticket and be here tomorrow.  No visa, no background check, no nothing.   The refugees pose extremely little risk.

There are several motives stated by the DC snipers for doing what they did.  One, the DC sniper was terrorizing and ultimately killing his ex-wife, with the cover being she was just one of many random victims.   He, by all accounts, snapped when he lost his children in a custody battle.    Two, Malvo had talked about Muhammad trying to start a race war and then building an all-black community in Canada.  And three, Muhammad wrote fondly of Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, while in jail.     Not so simple to call it jihad.  [/quote]

fine

But crazy is crazy, right?

If the US couldn't handle a homegrown threat, it certainly can't fight off threats from more and more people entering the US.  We've had gang issues all along - Crips who are "made in the USA - and MS 13 from El Salvador.  They are destroying neighborhoods and schools.

Sadly, the kids most vulnerable are those who are poor, illiterate and neglected.

Again, we can't seem to care for "our own."  How will adding more vulnerable kids to the mix make our society safer?

It's so easy to be a bleeding heart, but if you spend one day in an inner city school you'll see how many kids - "homegrown" and new to this country - become victims themselves.  [/quote]

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