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I don't see it as hypocritical to support equal rights for others, even if they go against my personal beliefs/teachings, etc.

This isn't a perfect example, but here's one to better explain my meaning: I'd say that being a vegetarian is a better choice for moral, ethical, spiritual, and health reasons. But I don't believe it is wrong to eat meat, and I don't think it would be fair for others to restrict my diet because of their own beliefs.[/quote]

Yes, but your type of vegetarian does not share the same mindset as religious fundamentalists - I don't use fundamentalist as a pejorative since these are actually the only religious types who are truly faithful to their religion. Both Christianity and Islam at their basic preaches the fact that their truth is the only truth, and that all other beliefs are false. So when a Muslim believes homosexuality is an abomination, they don't believe this only applies to Muslims, but that it applies to all people. So your attitude towards being a vegetarian is very very different from the core teachings of Christianity and Islam. In this regard, Vegans who practice their diet due to concerns for animal welfare is much more similar as they believe it is wrong for *anyone* to eat meat. If it was up to them, we'd all be vegans.

This is actually strong evidence that many of the founding fathers of this country were in fact secular in their true nature. It is very difficult to square one's true belief in Christianity with the thought that it is okay for others to believe what they want to believe. These are simply incompatible thoughts that people either avoid or brush aside when they bubble to the surface. [/quote]

FWIW, Christianity very clearly teaches that we shouldn't judge each other because only God can judge. Obviously many Christians missed that part of the gospels, but it's there in plain words. So in fact, plenty of Christians *can* square their own beliefs with the thought that others can believe what they want.[/quote]

Well, that's a play on words. Sure only God can judge, but he has already judged and his decision on what is good/bad is written in the Bible, which Christians have faith in. All people are sinners in this fallen world, God has judged this to be true and Christians believe in this judgement. Don't accept Jesus as your savior? You are not going to be redeemed and are going to hell. No two ways about it. That decision has been made for you as a believer and practitioner. You can say "I am not judging" all you want, but living as a good Christian obligates you to believe that non Christians, people who don't accept Jesus as their savior, are sinners that will be going to hell. What's ironic to Atheists is that Christianity as an artificial human creation, is in fact humans judging other humans, but then makes the claim that they are not.

If you claim to be a Christian, yet you believe that other paths to god are just as valid, then you have the wrong interpretation of the Bible that you claim to have faith in. Either that or you are not truly a Christian. [/quote]

I'm the American Muslim you've been speaking with, OP. I think there's a difference between saying "all paths are valid" and saying "I don't know what paths are more valid than others and don't want to judge another's path."

Sure, many of these religious texts condemn homosexuality. But that's about people who are homosexual to grapple with. I don't feel the need to decide if someone is a "good" or "bad" person or Muslim based on sexuality. I don't believe the world is that simplistic, and I think God is aware of the complexity.

I think you really seem to be struggling with your own beliefs and seem oddly threatened by others not following them. Why is that?[/quote]

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