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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^And what I'm telling you is THAT IS NOT TRUE, at least in any meaningful way. Beyond the slight edge given to ALL attractive people regardless of rape, there is no extra, specific advantage given to attractive men in terms of whether or not they are creepy. WOmen are fairly good at telling at once whether someone is "creepy". If a man is extremely socially skilled and manages to be a serial killer while flying under the radar, then, by definition of the social perception aspect required for creepy status, he is not creepy. Evil and awful, yes- but not creepy. You seem to be hung up and upset over the social disadvantages that ugly people (men specifically) face in general. That's fine, and there's room for a thread on that. You are certainly welcome to be passionate on the issue (though it obviously seems that you are a bit overly invested in it, for reasons which we can only guess...), but it's just not relevant in the creepy said. For the last time: looks do not determine or significantly contribute to someone's classification as "creepy". That has to do with social skills, respect of female boundaries, and awareness of social cues. Those are the determinants. [/quote] Ok I think you are really just not clued into reality. It is possible that YOU PERSONALLY are super good at looking at all men equitably and parsing out the creepy from the not creepy without being influenced whatsoever by looks but that really just doesn't mesh with reality for me (I am a moderately attractive white female ~30 so this is not some passionate quest to defend ugly nerds or anything). I know for a fact that if a man approached me on the metro and struck up a conversation with me that there are physical characteristics that would lead me to either be flattered and entertain the conversation or to shut down and write him off as a creep. Not proud of it but its true. Doesn't mean the hot guy isn't a creep and that I won't discover that and distance myself shortly, but he has a chance to prove he's not a creep, the other guy never did. You seem to be focused on determining someone's inner creep soul and saying that's the only relevant issue. How much of a creep they are in their heart of hearts. I think this measurement frequently does not directly correspond to how much of a creep a woman might think he is at any given moment. Plenty of guys are awkward and weird and probably creep a lot of people out but might be great fun loving warm hearted guys when you get to know them. Awareness of social skills and being charming is not correlated to someone's inner soul of creep, as the whole earlier discussion of the ASD community alluded to. So anyway I stand by my thesis, for some women, initial visual impression absolutely corresponds to initial classification as 'creepy.' Its part of the package. And in fact, initial visual impression can create a sub bias that influences how a woman views that man's social skills, respect of boundaries and awareness of cues. [/quote]
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