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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I have no idea why anyone has a problem with an infant being in a quiet upscale wine bar. This isn't selfish millennials -- unless the baby starts crying. But from what I gather, these were some nice friends out with a quiet well behaved baby. Why would anyone at the bar have a problem with it? The baby isn't doing anything to offend anyone else, other than by virtue of being there. The other PPs are pissed just because they "think" it shouldn't happen. They should get over themselves, just like people who "thought" interracial dating and same-sex marriages were taboo should get over themselves. Yeah, a slightly more extreme example, but the analogy still sticks: That the activity isn't hurting anyone so why do they care? I think it's great the friends were all able to connect, even though a baby can sometimes change the dynamic of friendships. When I had a baby, most of my girlfriends were (and continue to be) single and/or childless. I met moms through mom groups, and while I made a few friends in the groups, by and large I found these folks painfully boring and not people I would have been friends with in the absence of kids. I'm glad I've been able to stay tight with my childless friends, and that often means going to bars, hipster restaurants, urban backyards and other random places that you may not want to bring your friends. Some times other folks have kids there, which is great. But life goes on if it's just mom, dad and son. Also - [b]someone suggested that it was horrible to leave an infant bored like that without stimulation in a bar[/b]. But what about all you suburbanites who spend 2 hours a day in the car while your infants just stare at the backseat? That's so unstimulating. It's okay if infants spend some time not being stimulated and with their own thoughts. I suspect this woman spends less time at wine bars than your kids spend blankly in the carseat. [/quote] Actually as a child development masters, I can tell you that a restaurant or bar at that time of night for a baby is way too much stimulation for a baby's brain. The natural rhythms of a baby should be winding down around 4 pm (think clean slate in the morning when a baby wakes - so the most stimulation then and wind down later in the evening). [/quote] Okay but then by your logic, babies should not do any stimulating activities after 4pm? [b] No having the tv on in the background while dad watches the news at 6pm[/b]? No restaurants whatsoever, even at the kid-friendly hour of 5pm? No going to Target at 5pm, which has major stimulation involving generator noise and fluorescent lights (this was my son's biggest stimulation no-no up to age 6 months)? That may be the right answer, but I hardly think that all the PPs clutching pearls about a baby in a bar are equally worked up about those other activities. [/quote] Um, this is DCUM full of mothers up on the latest studies and EVERYONE will tell you that the TV should not even be on in the background for the first TWO YEARS of a child's life since the studies show how detrimental that is. Only a craptastic mom would admit to having a TV on around there baby until after the baby went to bed at the mandatory 7 pm bedtime (yes, slightly snarky, but kind of true)[/quote]
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