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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I asked about this on another thread, but no one answered -- Did the Indiana bakers face any governmental penalties for refusing to bake a gay wedding cake?  Were they arrested?  Were they fined?  As far as I can tell, the only penalty they suffered was lots of people posting online about what jerks they are, and one lonely protester outside their shop.

If that's correct, how were the bakers prevented from "living life freely"?  They made a choice to deny services to someone, and they were mocked in response.  Isn't that a justifiable position on both sides?[/quote]
In Oregon, same case fined the baker over 100K. She lost her bakery [/quote]
Yes, but that's Oregon, where the laws are different from Indiana.  Below are a few links discussing the Oregon situation.  There, the legislature passed a law explicitly forbidding business from discriminating based on things like race, religion, sexual orientation, etc.  So bakers could not refuse to sell to gay couples, or someone who is black, or even to Christians!  According to Wikipedia (FWIW), Indiana does NOT have a similar law, so an Indiana baker did not need the Indiana RFRA to let him be a discriminatory jerk, unless the people of some particular county chose to pass such a law. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Indiana)

Also, FWIW, the Oregon bakers "risked" fines of up to $150,000, but were never actually fined.  They did NOT close their shop because of fines. Instead, "[i]The Kleins were forced to close up shop when the orders stopped coming in and they stopped getting referrals[/i]," which I see as pretty justified.  I assume you aren't suggesting customers should be forced to buy cakes from a business they disagree with, just because the owners happen to be anti-gay Christians, right?

http://blogs.findlaw.com/free_enterprise/2015/02/in-gay-couples-wedding-cake-lawsuit-ore-bakery-loses-again.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/02/02/bakery-same-sex-oregon-fined-wedding-cake/22771685/
http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/659A.403[/quote]

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