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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Cool, then you are also fine with businesses refusing to serve people of different races[/quote] And that envolves which religious beliefs exactly? Apples and oranges, stop being an ass.[/quote] Oh, please. The "religious liberty" argument - the exact one used here - was used to justify slavery, segregation, and anti-miscegenation laws. http://wakeforestlawreview.com/2012/04/a-unique-religious-exemption-from-antidiscrimination-laws-in-the-case-of-gays-putting-the-call-for-exemptions-for-those-who-discriminate-against-married-or-marrying-gays-in-context/[/quote] Change the channel. Private business should be free to do as they please. It is reasonable to expect gov't institutions to be controlled, not the private enterprise. [/quote] So, you're saying that yes, private businesses should be allowed to exclude people based on race?[/quote] So what do we do with a hair-dresser who doesn't know what to do with black hair? :roll: Just curious what your suggestions will be.[/quote] Well, if she wants to be able to cut black hair well, she should study and learn. If her clients like the way she cuts their hair, more power to them. Maybe women who don't like how she cuts hair still come in for a blow-out. But that's not the same as refusing to serve black people. She's offering the same services to everyone. [/quote] Dude, which ivory tower are you from? Besides cutting, girls have their hair styled. Do you have a clue about how much effort and skill goes into styling natural black hair? Doesn't sound like you do. A person without specific skills is not going to attempt something like this. And I'd like to see you make someone acquire a skill they may not be interested in. [/quote] The difference is that if the hair stylist says, "Listen, I don't get many black customers and I don't have a lot of experience with hair like yours. I'm afraid I'm going to do it badly," and the customer says, "That's ok, I'd like a haircut anyway," the stylist doesn't get to say, "I don't serve black customers." There's nothing forcing the stylist to acquire those skills, all they have to do is offer the same services to all customers.[/quote] And neither does the baker. Again, it's the PARTICIPATION in the event that's what's being covered here. Y'all don't really seem to get that concept.[/quote] Neither does the baker...what? Your post doesn't make sense.[/quote] Did the baker who was forced to close in Oregon refuse to sell baked goods from her shop to the gay couple, or did she simply refuse to bake a cake for their wedding? Hint: The baker served all sorts of people, including gays. It was the PARTICIPATION in the wedding by baking a cake FOR THAT PURPOSE that violated their religious freedoms. You want everything fair and equal, but you are trampling on the rights of some people in order to satisfy the rights of your chosen group. That is neither fair nor equal. And you haven't explained why your chosen group is more worthy. Until you do that, any other statements you make will be ignored.[/quote]
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