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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm not sure you understand what "hyperbole" means. And, I'm not trying to argue with you that he did or don't give consent. He was too drunk to say no right? Was he too drunk to say yes? Did the "rapist" take his actions and his physiological response while he was inebriated as a signal that he was consenting? It's just not so easy as to say - well, he was drunk, she raped him! If he was so drunk how does he head over to her place and then get raped again? I'm not arguing consent is required, I'm arguing there CAN be confusion about what consent means. I'm not sure why you're resistant to that idea? I feel like there's been this whole "THIS is what rape means" discussion in this society and we're all nodding our heads and "consent is consent - End of discussion" doesn't always sit well with me. And it goes both ways here. I mean good god aren't 50% of 20-somethings currently fornicating as we type drunk!?[/quote] I understand what hyperbole means. And the example of a woman tearing off her clothes while saying no is a perfect example of it. It does nothing to further this thread other than..well, throw around hyperbole. And if it's not, and someone is running into situations like this, they need some evaluation about with whom they're spending their time. The problem is not necessarily the blurring of consent lines - it's blurring them to serve a purpose, which in this case is basically to say that a 200lb man can't be raped by a 120 lb woman. We need to make it so that the conversation for young people is clear on what consent is and isn't. Because reading on here - some people clearly don't. I fornicated plenty of times drunk as a 20 something year old. I've even had one night stands. But I've never worried about consent because it IS clear in my mind what is and what isn't consent. As soon as you allow yourself to think there are blurs, then you open yourself up the a whole host of bad potential outcomes. In this case the man in question was drunk and said no. I don't see how it gets more clear. [/quote]
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