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Yes. US has been lagging prior to 2.0 and we were supplementing before that. My response was basically that if you are unhappy with MCPS math then you supplement at home.

I am in no way and shape saying that I am comparing the Math achievement of all students in China and India and Eastern Europe with American kids. I am comparing the performance of the middle class students of these countries to the US students.  Considering how humongous their middle class population is, they will have a significant impact on the global market for white collar jobs.

Let's take the scores of only MCPS (the best school district) and we can see how very dismal the showing is.  What is the failure rate on Algebra 2 exams?[/quote]

No, if you're going to compare the performance of middle-class students in China and India and Eastern Europe to students in the US, then you'll have to compare it to middle-class students in the US (or middle-class students in MCPS) -- not all students.[/quote]

MCPS would still lag behind. And this is inspite of the fact that what passes for middle class in these countries would qualify as the poorest of the population of Montgomery County.

If we compare the middle class students with the middle class students here. Hand's down these other nations would win. However, this being a free nation and all, this is entirely your choice what kind of advantages you want to give to your children.

I see the same faces - at the prep classes, at the magnet orientation meetings at school or college orientation meetings, at awards ceremonies, at state level scholastic meets, STEM competitions...faces of immigrants from these countries.
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In my DC's HGC orientation, it was majority Caucasian faces.  I didn't speak to every single one, so I can't tell if they were European, Canadian, or Australian immigrants.  But, I do know that the Caucasian friends that my DC has in HGC are not immigrants.  There are only a  handful of Asians, and maybe a couple of Black/Hispanics.  So, in my neck of the woods, I don't think we have *that* many immigrant parents, but I really can't tell.  Let me guess.. you are in a W cluster.

I do agree, that in this country, more parents, especially the underclass should value education more.   And I do agree, that in those high performing Asian countries, it is *much* more competitive to get into a good university which then sets you up for a better job.  And this is largely the reason why kids study so hard.  But, these same countries also have a much higher suicide rate amongst teens.  I know some Koreans that don't want their kids educated in Korea because of the pressure and the stress it causes.

Thankfully, in this country, you can go to a no-name university and still get a good job and live a comfortable life.  I am not convinced that the future will be so different that unless you go to a top university, you won't be able to live a comfortable life.  So, yes, I'm happy to have my kids not be in such a pressure cooker and have mental well-being.  [/quote]

I don't think my kids feel that they are in a pressure cooker environment regarding studies. It is just the discipline of studying (a little more than just doing your homework) every day, consistently and daily.

Financial security, intact marriages, stable and loving home environment, social support system and network - all these also play a large part in the mental well-being of a child too, and have a direct impact on their ability to learn and do well at school.

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