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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] Uh, the Soviets voluntarily gave Crimea to Ukraine in the 50s. If there is any artificiality, it is on the part of Russia itself. And let's be clear, this wasn't initiated as a war over the status of crimea. It is about the politics of Ukraine itself.[/quote] Uh, in the 50s they were ALL Soviets. Remember? Soviet Russia. Soviet Ukraine. You've made a mistake when you replaced "Russians" with "Soviets". Yes, it is about the politics of Ukraine itself, and about the fact that eastern Ukraine feels closer to Russia in language and identity than to the rest of Ukraine. National borders weren't always drawn along identity borders, and for whatever reason, Ukraine proper didn't court these populations enough to breed alliance toward Kiev rather than toward Russia. And here lies the rub, which the Western media, so accustomed to packaging things in black and white, bad guy-good guy dichotomy, prefers not to say. It's not about brutal Russia putting its iron-toed shoes on the tender neck of small but freedom-loving nation state - although that's the story being sold here. It's about two nations that are both hypocritical, oppressive and corrupt to the core - yes, my dear, Ukraine, like Georgia before it, has absolutely nothing to its name to break the champagne over - no vibrant economy, no accountable government, no freedom of press. It's another banana republic ruled as a plantation by its band of minister thieves. There are no good guys there. Oh well, the IMF has announced a $17 billion dollar bailout package for Ukraine. All that means is that a few more golden toilets and Cote d'Azur villas will be bought. And everyone will know. [/quote]
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