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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] PP. Sure, at the college or post secondary level, things have changed a lot, especially for technical training. But if you look at the K-12 CC, they are addressing reading, writing, and math skills that are not as specific as what you are thinking about (writing an argumentative essay based on research, working on explaining math concepts, etc.). These are things that have been taught for a long, long time---conceptual thinking. I just sent a son off to college. I'm pretty aware of what it took for him to get in there. At age 60, we are not completely out to lunch yet. I am still learning and I think you will be too (since high tech is ever changing). What is important is building a foundation and skills (at the K-12 level) so that you can continue to learn as you move forward. Thinking skills are important and I wonder how well the CC tests are assessing that. If 30% of students are passing in KY and the tests are reliable indicators of thinking skills, yes, we are in trouble. [/quote] Yes, more kids are not passing these standardized tests. I think they expected that for 2 reasons: 1. The standards are still relatively new, and schools are still trying to develop appropriate lesson plans to match them. Someone posted on here about how a teacher who successfully implemented CC standards at her school in MA was being recruited to help other states do the same, and this person is facing a lot of opposition from teachers to throwing out the old material. I think this type of attitude is causing a lot of the problems. 2. The CC standards, in most cases, are a lot harder than previous standards. This is where Arne Duncan's comments about the "parents discovering their kids aren't that smart", albeit not stated tactfully, but aptly apply. [/quote]
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