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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Great post: 9:36. Right on.[/quote] Disagree. Sorry, but times have changed. If you are 60, then there were a lot more manufacturing jobs and a lot less global competition for jobs when you graduated HS. Even when I graduated in the late 80's the competition wasn't as tough. Not the case anymore. It changed in the 90's when it started becoming apparent that the US kids were not doing as well globally compared to our counterparts, and today, even compared to some lesser developed countries. It really bugs me when I see these types of posts.. "it was good enough for me, so it should be good enough now." No, it isn't good enough now. People that have this mentality have their heads stuck in the ground and don't see how much more competitive things have become, both in the workplace and in getting into colleges. [/quote] The populace hasn't changed, though. Not everyone is Ivy league or even 4-year college material. That shouldn't make them worthless or ineligible for a high school diploma. But that's the situation Common Core is setting up. Those standards were written for the top 30 percent of students, not the general population. And that's about the amount of students passing the early tests, even in early adopter states like Kentucky after three years of testing. [/quote] The populace has changed. It's much tougher today to be middle class without a college degree. I know not everyone is college bound, nor should they be. I actually think trade schools are a great idea. But, even most trade skills today require more advanced set of skills compared to 50 yrs ago because most of today's equipment is computerized. Also, the way we used to teach math wasn't very good. You may have seen those links to the NYT articles about how most American adults are bad at math. We had some electrical work done in our house a year ago. The electrician owned his own company; older man. He was looking to hire more electricians, and he was willing to train them. But, most of the young adults who applied couldn't figure out fractions. He said he felt hopeless in this regard. He was overworked and wanted to retire and pass on his company to someone else, but things weren't looking good. So, even kids that are trade bound need better skills today.[/quote]
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