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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So, our Common Core supporter won the argument pages ago? Other than personal attacks and assumptions about politics, here are the arguments on this thread in favor of Common Core. The only answer to specific questions is to post the Common Core website which is written by the Common Core developers and about the Common Core developers. It gives almost no concrete information about how the standards were developed or by whom. Feedback data is particularly scant. There is not any information about the vetting and validation of the standards—except to say they did. The fourth grade PARCC test is good. We can compare states scores with Common Core. Who cares who developed them? No one has failed the test. Kids always fail the test when it is new. The tests have been revised. Standards are good. It doesn’t matter that the developers had close connections with Pearson. Doesn’t matter that Pearson won the contract with PARCC. Oh yes, and I guess the implication is that it is just fine for Pearson to be making buckets of money off of standards that it wrote. So, these are the arguments in favor. Here’s a clue, when you argue you should have data to support your argument. [/quote] Other arguments in favor are personal. I'm a teacher, and I have been working under the old state standards (in VA and MD). I find that the new, Common Core standards are either equal to, or in many cases, vastly superior, to the old MD state standards. Most teachers I am working with (in elementary school) say the same thing. We are having some transition issues (like kids in 5th grade having not totally mastered the skills expected by the end of 4th grade) where kids are having to play catch up) but we expect things will improve a great deal in a few years. We greatly approve of the writing standards. They are vastly better than the old MD writing standards. I don't have a lot of data to "prove" that teachers think these standards are "better" because we have only been working under them for one year. As a parent, though, I am seeing much better instruction in writing (and higher expectations) for my 2 children, under Common Core. It will be hard to prove that kids are getting better instruction in writing, though, because the old Maryland tests (MSAs) really didn't test writing in paragraph form. So I'm not sure that there will ever be objective evidence that the Common Core standards do a better job of requiring students to learn writing. As for being concerned about who write the standards and who is benefiting from them -- honestly I don't care. If the standards are better, I'm all for them. [/quote]
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