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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Patrols or any other student should report bullying.  This behavior is bullying to this girl and will lower her self esteem.

It's hard to see this below, but here is a link to a great presentation at my school on bullying in FCPS.

http://www.fcps.edu/ForestvilleES/2012-13_Events/Forestville%20Parent%20PPT%20revised%20%20July%202012.pdf

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I omitted the garbled part, but (1) staff responsibilities, which is what were excerpted, surely are not assumed by safety patrols; and (2) this purported discussion clearly would not fall within the SR&R definition of bullying, in my view.

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If you read what I linked to, you would see that everyone is responsible for stopping bullying - staff, students who see bullying, and the student being bullied.  I don't think you even read it at all.[/quote]

I was referring to the portion of the deck that you'd tried to excerpt, which appeared to relate to staff responsibilities.  However, the way you presented it was so garbled that it was hard to read.

And the specific incident teed up for discussion does not, in my opinion, fall within either the SR&R or FCPS Training definitions of "bullying."  If you believe otherwise, you apparently think any discussion among children about why some don't get into AAP is tantamount to "psychological harassment."

Ill-mannered behavior on the part of the girls in our hypothetical scenario?  Probably.  Bullying?  I think not.    [/quote]

Not pp.  Patrols are allowed to address I'll-mannered behavior, not just bullying.  If you don't like it that I'll-mannered behavior isn't  tolerated on a public school bus, maybe do kiss and ride. [b] It is insane what people will try to justify.  [/b]Maybe the patrol should have just reported the girls to the principal since I would think she/he has the authority to address I'll-mannered behavior.  I'm sure the same people complaining about the patrol just telling them to stop would be asking why he didn't just tell them to stop instead of making a big deal and reporting it to the principal.[/quote]

Exactly my reaction, watching people step up here to defend the comments of the OP who called AAP kids, as a group, "insufferable."

If the patrol said something like "be nice to each other, girls," on the bus, no problem.  But if some older boy decides that, because someone gave him a florescent belt to wear, he gets to decide what much younger kids have to say to each other about who does or doesn't get into AAP, he's mistaken.  Sorry. [/quote]

It's so interesting to imagine the day when your snowflake is made fun of on the bus, or elsewhere, and no one steps in to defend him or her.  Let's say you have a daughter and other kids tell her she's "not pretty enough" to be in their club.  Or your son is told he's a wimp so he can't play with the other boys.  I guess in these scenarios, it's perfectly fine with you if a nearby patrol who witnesses these conversations just completely ignores what's going on.  I'm also imagining your outrage when your crushed son or daughter comes home in tears and tells you what happened.  Only then will it hit you that yes, this type of behavior is bullying.  It's easy to dismiss the whole situation when it's someone else's kid, isn't it?  [/quote]

Meh.  You trivialize bullying by setting the threshold so low.  Kids shouldn't depend on self-appointed inclusion police to protect them from every comment that potentially might hurt their feelings.

And, in this case, it wasn't the other third graders who decided the third girl couldn't be in their AAP class.  It was FCPS.[/quote]

Meh.  Let us know how you feel when your not-so-pretty daughter or non-athletic son encounters a situation where kids are deliberately saying nasty things to them.  I don't think you'll get much sympathy.[/quote]

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