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Again and again you make the crucial point of confusing Muslim practice with Islam. You are so emotional that you simply can not evaluate Islam objectively. You said many many pages back that your husband's family pressures you to convert. Its no wonder you're incapable of being objective.

You need to separate the forest from the trees. Remember, Hitlers actions does not reflect badly on all German citizens for eternity. Separate Islam the religion from the people, AND PARTICULARLY PEOPLE WHO ARE PRODUCTS OF TRIBAL AREAS, TRADITIONAL CULTURAL UPBRINGING. Its absolutely unbelievable to me you judge the faith of 1.6 bil people based on actions of a handful of assholes and that you ignore the meaning and historical context of the Quran. [/quote]

What's absolutely unbelievable to ME is your assumption that you're talking with the same, and only one person.  Do you realize that the a) punjabi person, and b) woman whose husband's family pressured her to convert might just possibly be two separate people?[/quote]

It may be or might not be. The issue is not whether Muslims have comitted atrocities. They have. Some still do. But an educated person should recognize it may not reflect poorly on the religion, particularly if the vast majority of the 1.6 billion are peaceful. An educated person does not read other people's religious scriptures literally with zero regard to historical context. An educated person who wants to completely understand a faith will not simply engage in self study, they will seek out a wide variety of scholars and imams also, particularly well educated ones. And they would not insist that an entire religion is barbaric. Thats not only ignorant but terribly irresponsible.

If she continues to babble on this way, and succeeds in her intent to foster hatred, mistrust, and rancor between Muslims and Christians and Jews, it may have the unintended consequence of inflaming some people, and then inspiring them into violent retaliation. Thus, its this biased hateful version of Islam she insists is representative of all Muslims that might actually give rise to even more hateful and violent reactions.

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You and your friends have no problem quoting scriptures literally when it fits your narrative. So really, what is the difference between you and me?

If you include into the "well educated imams" the person who told you the only reliable collection of ahadith is somewhere in Saudi Arabia under lock and key, unreleased into the world for some unfathomable reason, then I'm afraid your definition of "educated" differs from mine.

PS: I asked my Saudi husband if that might possibly be true. When he was done laughing, he said if you believe this, you probably also believe in jinns. [/quote]

Oh dear, Jinns are mentioned in the Quran repeatedly. If he doesn't believe they exist, then who knows if he even buys that the Quran is the word of God. [/quote]
Aw, the horrors![/quote]

Not for me, it isn't.[/quote]

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