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[quote=Muslima][quote=Anonymous][quote=Muslima][quote]

A few crucial points:
(1) a woman whose husband is dead or disabled is indeed "compelled" to work. This is true in many Muslim countries that have been plagued by war, where women and mothers with no other sources of family support, are indeed "compelled to work" and would, in fact, benefit from laws promoting equality.[/quote]

Not in an islamic society. In an islamic state, the divorced/widowed woman is the responsibility of her father. If the father can't take care of her, then her brothers, or other relatives ect. So no in a pure shariah state unless the woman has no male relatives, she is never compelled to work, and of course if she doesn't have male relatives then the inheritance is hers....

[quote](2) what you call being "compelled" to work is a source of great happiness for many women.
(3) one of the reasons US women earn less than men is they work in different jobs. Women are much more likely to go into teaching and nursing, for example.
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Ugh.... You understand the meaning of "Compelled" right? Most Muslim women do CHOOSE to work freely but their money is 100% theirs to keep, they do not have to participate financially and can not be compelled to do so. Husbands on the other hand are obligated to support 100% their wives regardless of whether they work or not. Fathers are obligated to take care of their daughters 100%  till they get married.

[quote]But surely you know all these things.... Since you claim you live in the US, it would be pretty much impossible to be oblivious to points #1-3. I don't understand a mindset that argues by denying the the obvious and expects that nobody will see through it. Do you cross your fingers and hope that nobody will challenge your statements?[/quote]

You seem pretty confused.....[/quote]

I think many of us are frustrated with your deliberately slippery, shallow arguing style. You pretend not to see obvious points and you provide shallow answers to reasonable questions. There's a lot to take on in your snide post above, but let's focus on the following:
1. Your response that a widow with no male family members to support her "gets the full inheritance" is not only glib and disrespectful to the people you're talking to on DCUM, it's incredibly cavalier about the plight of impoverished widows. Their situation is very common in wartime. So, what happens to the woman with NO male relatives and NO inheritance of any substance? 
2. We all know that being dependent on someone else can be OK, or it can be fraught with emotional and financial difficulties. 
3. Many of us disagree that discrimination against women is so ingrained that we should stop trying to seek change, and that instead we should ingrain patriarchal family and institutional structures.

Finally, your gratuitous insults are not welcome. Argue like an honest, mature adult. Thank you.[/quote]

[quote]1. Your response that a widow with no male family members to support her "gets the full inheritance" is not only glib and disrespectful to the people you're talking to on DCUM, it's incredibly cavalier about the plight of impoverished widows. Their situation is very common in wartime. [b]So, what happens to the woman with NO male relatives and NO inheritance of any substance? [/b][/quote]

The question posed was about inheritance, not about widows who dont have relatives or any substance. That is a pretty illogical question given that of course someone who doesn't have money or any family to rely on will get a job  if they can and want. Otherwise, they become the responsibility of the islamic state and the muslims in that state to a greater extent. Islam is not an individualistic society like the West. The wellbeing of each and every Muslim is the responsibility of all in the state.

[quote]3. Many of us disagree that discrimination against women is so ingrained that we should stop trying to seek change, and that instead we should ingrain patriarchal family and institutional structures.[/quote]

Yeh, discrimination that exists in your head, so pointless! I will repeat it over and over again. Islam doesn't discriminate against women. I am a Muslim woman and will choose the rules of Islam over any other rules, now you dont have to accept that because obviously you are not Muslim. But to tell me that I am being discriminated against by my Religion while I perfectly know I am not is kinda insulting. To think you care more about my situation and plight as a muslim woman is actually very odd! Whenever Women are being discriminated against in the muslim world, it has been because of action of Men not the religion, so get off of your high horses. Hundreds of Thousands of women are being discriminated against in the United States every single day, so have at it! [/quote]

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