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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]2013 Siemens Finalists.

http://www.siemens-foundation.org/pool/siemens_com...2013_web_listing_sfs_final.pdf

California has fifty-one students represented among the finalists. Most of those students attend California public schools.

Of course, I recognize that California is the most populous State, but these national achievements (among others) are but one recognition of the fact that California schools are doing an increasingly excellent job in educating its diverse student population, and leading as an example for the others to follow.

2014 Intel Finalists

https://student.societyforscience.org/intel-sts-2014-finalists

There are eleven student finalists from California public schools alone. The second-place finisher, New York, has eight student finalists, and I believe that Maryland has four or five. [/quote]

The Siemens link doesn't show any students. A quick look at the Intel list and the high schools represented by those California students are some pretty wealthy areas of California.   I'm not disagreeing with your conclusions about California public schools, but I don't see how this data shows much, if anything at all. [/quote]

At least two of the CA finalists are at private schools. And the others listed are widely known as the best schools in the state. It's like people from another state looking at Langley and TJ and assuming our whole state is like that. [/quote]

Yes, and the fact is there are always people who are going to succeed and some of them are immigrants or children of immigrants.  But there are also many kids who are not succeeding and this is true in CA as well as FCPS.  My high school in FCPS has a lot of success stories, but it also has kids who drop out or just coast through high school and get out with the bare minimum of skills.  We always push our kids toward going to college, and this is the right path for many, but there are also many kids who just need skills so that they can succeed outside of school without a 4 year college degree.  [/quote]

And so why is FCPS trying to educate 16-22 year olds at a 3rd grade academic level to be ready for college? If there is no federal requirement, isn't there another path for them that will still make them successful but not be so daunting for the teachers or students? [/quote]

These students aren't necessarily being prepared for college, are they? Won't something greater than a 3rd grade reading level will serve them in almost any path they choose? You don't, technically, need to know how to read to, for example, be a cook, but it sure helps if you can read a recipe with ease.

I can't imagine why anyone thinks Fairfax County or our society in general would be better off if these students were denied these educational opportunities.[/quote]

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