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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It's true. When I hire, I don't look at GPA and sometimes being Ivy league makes me less interested in hiring the person. I'd rather get a scrappy Big Ten grad who I know will put in the time with the low level work to learn, vs an ivy league kid who is spoiled (not that this holds true for every big ten or ivy grad). [/quote] Oh you sound like a brilliant hiring manager. That chip on your shoulder is affecting your brain function.[/quote] +1. Wonder if PP always bases her hiring decisions on tired stereotypes.[/quote] Haha. I agree. I'm a college career director and I always tell applicants to avoid the HR people and try to work their way around them because some of them have the same dumb ideas as this poster. Oh, let me just hire the dumbest people I can and certainly avoid hiring any Ivy grads...because they are probably too smart and I'd be threatened. I hope this was a troll poster because I can't imagine anyone that pathetic and envious.[/quote] Go around HR? I don't think HR would be the ones with those issues. I'd think HR would gladly pass the resume along to the hiring managers. It's the hiring managers who are more likely to be afraid of bringing the smarter, more impressive guy onto his turf. Instant threat.[/quote] I LOVE this speculative chit chat demonstrating that those commenting know next to nothing about the hiring process as it applies to high power jobs.[/quote] As a college career director I'm certain you know much less about 'high powered' jobs than I do.[/quote] HA! Do you REALLY think ANYONE is hired into a "high powered" job out of college? That is referred to as ENTRY LEVEL. I'm talking C-Suite jobs. No one questions the contention that strong college pedigree helps in obtaining ENTRY LEVEL jobs (which is what you, as a college career director, handle), the point is that one's educational credentials have diminishing value as they build a career track record. By the time it comes to C-Suite, Partnership, Managing Director hiring those credentials are nothing more than a PLUS factor. In my experience, positions in the administration of colleges (e.g., college career director) are full of frustrated professionals who can't understand why their educational pedigree hasn't taken them further. [/quote] You said it: Ivy credentials are a PLUS factor, which gives it an advantage over non-ivy. And let's not act as if the ivy credentials won't be given a 2nd look every single time while the non-ivy resume will be much easier to bypass. Ivy credentials simply do not have diminishing value. But keep telling yourself that. PS: No need to try to be insulting to college career directors. Perhaps it is a profession about which they are passionate. At least they seem like happy, confident people. The same cannot be said for you.[/quote]
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