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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]yes, I agree with one of the PP.   he needs therapy and counseling, not hormones & surgery to turn a man into a woman.[/quote]

If you don't want gender reassignment surgery or hormones for yourself, don't get one! Easy as that! Stay out of it for other people. Really, it's that simple.[/quote]

At some point, though, society has to decide when to stay out of things and when not to.  There must be boundaries.  The fact that your boundaries and PPs are different doesn't mean that this isn't a boundary setting issue.  Clearly, you can't "live and let live" about everything in a functional society, but people disagree about where to draw the line.  Just agree to disagree, yeesh.[/quote]

No, because the problem is who is drawing that line, and the fact that where that line is evolves and changes in societies. What should "society" have to say about someone's gender identity anyway?[/quote]

This is my point exactly.  You think society shouldn't "hold the pen" to draw the line around gender identity and, presumably, to other things related to the self (e.g., abortion).  PPs do think society should "hold the pen" on these matters and, presumably, on other things related to the self (e.g., abortion).  I think at the edges everyone agrees - for example, you may have been born with the brain chemistry that compels you to kill but you still can't do it, even if you feel compelled to and were born with that desire.  When it gets into what I personally view as more harmless (e.g., gender identity), people disagree, and I think the [b]disagreement is respectable on both sides.[/b][/quote]

I was good all the way to the end there..... [/quote]

Everyone who disagrees with me is WRONG.  - Signed, "open-minded" DCUMs everywhere[/quote]

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