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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Well, there must be something wrong with me.  When my dd talks about Ivies, I steer the conversation back to UVA and William & Mary.  You can get an excellent education any number of places, and this notion that it is Ivy or Bust is pure stupidity.

FWIW, both my DH and I are graduates of state schools.  Both of us went to Top 5 graduate schools (still not Ivies) and did better than most of the Ivy grads.  [b]The people at Ivy League schools are not smarter than everyone else[/b], nor are they automatically more successful.  
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Wasn't it quite a few of these Ivy-types who brought down the world economy in 2008?  See Frontline "Money, Power and Wall Street."  I bet you would be hard pressed to find a non-Ivy grad among the fuckups who screwed the rest of us. And don't get me started on the likes of Doug Feith and other "chicken hawk" Ivy grads who gave us the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan.  I include you Ms. Rice.  [/quote]

9:16 again. I get your anger at Wall Street. But I can't leave without a small correction. Do you remember all the articles in the aftermath of 9-11 about how the traders at places like Cantor Fitzgerald (near the top of the WTC) were blue collar, not white shoe? And these guys are rising to the top, too - it's not all Ivies at the top. Times have changed. [/quote]

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