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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is it for me, too.  But to answer your question:  Were I ever in so much pain that I felt I needed to take my life, I would hope that my family would know me enough to understand that, in order to do that, I must have been in unimaginable pain.  I would understand their missing me, wishing it hadn't happened, or that it could have been prevented.  But I would not understand their being angry.

That being said, I do know how traumatizing it is for young children when a parent commits suicide.  They are deprived of a parent, and they do tend to think that suicide is OK, as their parent did.  I would hope that a parent would think of that before committing suicide, but that assumes that someone truly suicidal is capable of something that they may not, in that moment, be capable of.

Finally, I disagree with your curt dismissal of what I had to say.  Just as I am not the expert here, neither are you (no matter what experience you may have in the area of domestic violence).  You are free to disagree, but not to dismiss my ideas as outdated.  It's really quite simple:  If you are a person who, (as one of our posters does) believes that suicidal people are selfish and nasty, leave them alone.  There is no law, moral or ethic requiring anything of you.  If you believe you are being manipulated by someone who likes to, as you described "play suicide", again, leave them alone.  Because even if such a person happened to be wrong, they cannot help the person.  They can only do damage.  It's really very simple:  If you don't like or feel compassion for people who seem suicidal or make suicidal gestures (which you call "threats") then, by all means, leave them alone.  Give them room to look for someone else who may be able and willing to reach them.[/quote]

You are truly unwell. Seriously. Only really emotionally stunted people think like this. [/quote]

You are truly unwell.  Seriously.  Only really narrow-minded people who  lack empathy call someone pathological simply because they disagree with their point of view on one issue.[/quote]

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