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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here -- I'd say that based on this conversation, there's plenty of touchiness to go around.

I hope it's just a phase, though and that some day soon neither side will feel the need to defend itself so much.

I do feel that Christians are more touchy right now, but that it doesn't really relate to their religious beliefs so much as that they sense that they are losing the privileged status  that they've had for so long -- sort of like men in the sixties when women's lib started up and white folks before that when the civil rights movement cranked up.

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That doesn't make any sense. 90% of the country describes itself as religious, and this is still a Christian nation. That won't change anytime soon.

The problem atheists face is it's kind of hard and inherently negative to be against something. We know what you're against. But what are you for? And please don't talk about secular humanism -- all of those concepts derive directly from Scripture.[/quote]

Actually it's 80% are religious. and 70% of people under 30.  And this has never been a "Christian Nation" - it is a nation with a majority of Christian citizens.

Id say many of the good parts of scripture come from humanism.  People were living and cooperating together in groups long before scripture came along.[/quote]

Actually, the opposite would be true. Scripture was a way to communicate basic civility and hygiene (i.e., don't eat shellfish) and also to tame the brutal masses and set some behavioral norms and universal laws.

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