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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm very glad that most local atheists have "consciences," which they listen to, and which compel them to choose good and not evil.

But you don't HAVE to do that, if there is no Creator and there is nothing more than the material world.  No one is going to ultimately hold you accountable for your actions.  If there is no Lawgiver, no Absolute Standard (also called God), nothing ultimately matters.

That guy in Ohio?  If he hadn't gotten caught?  If he had woken up one morning, raped everyone one last time before slowing torturing them to death in front of one another before eating a fine meal and fallen peacefully asleep in his warm bed before dying in his sleep?  They are all just dust.  He just got the evolutionary upper hand, he had the power and he wasn't afraid to use it.

That's just as ok a life choice as any other.  If there is no Lawgiver.[/quote]

How was he caught and stopped? It wasn't Jesus that caught him and stopped him. In fact, the Catholic religion, to name but one, has a long and illustrious history of raping children without being held accountable for their actions. So clearly religion is not going to do the job of stopping kids being raped. In fact, if religion still reigned supreme I can guarantee you a lot more kids would be being raped.

What stopped him was that we have such a thing as society, as government, and as laws. The young girl signalled for help and a neighbor intervened. The police were called and arrested him. He will be put on trial and punished. Because of society, because of our ability and willingness to cooperate and work together, and to enforce mutually advantageous rules of behavior.
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You mention the laws we have. How were those laws formed? Based on what principles? If they are based on principles you don't believe in, why adhere to them or be forced to adhere to them?

If there is truly no one to hold us accountable for our actions, then ultimately there is no good or bad. Instead of doing things that are pleasing to God, we only seek to please ourselves. [/quote]

So, do you understand that this guy is being held accountable according to laws voted on and agreed by the State and Federal government, based on the authority of the people? And do you understand that your God did nothing to stop this guy from raping and kidnapping? If we are relying on a big guy in the sky to tell us what to do, then any madman can go out and do whatever he wants because "God told him to".

No, we rely on laws based on popular will emerging from the democratic discourse. They are enforced by society, by the police, and by the courts.

Your imaginary deities are fine with rape. Our society is not, and does its best to stop it from happening and punishing offenders when it does.[/quote]

I feel that I am communicating with you respectfully. I only ask that you do the same in turn. I think this thread is going very well for DCUM, so I hope we can do away with the need to insult.

Now, to address your post: How were the laws formed? You say it's based on the state and federal government, but how did they determine what laws were needed? Based on what?[/quote]

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