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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am not in any way trivializing female mutilation, but suggesting that you consider it in the same way as male mutilation.

Here's another article that I suggest you read in its entirety.  I used to agree with you until I read up more and better understood the cultural background behind female circumcision and realized that it is very similar to cutting boys.

http://joseph4gi.blogspot.com/2011/06/circumcision-is-child-abuse-picture.html [/quote]

Why exactly would I consider slicing off the labia and clitoris, often followed by sewing up the vaginal opening the same as removing a foreskin on a penis?  Explain that to me.  I'm not talking about the cultural background - at all.  I'm talking about the severity of the procedure that you are trivializing.

Seriously,  Google some images of circumcised girls and and then get back to me.  Aside from the horror of seeing a mutilated vulva and the blood that goes with removing the flesh of the labia, you'll also note that FGM is typically performed on girls older than 5 (markedly different than male circumcision in most cultures).  Study it - no not just reading a few anti male circumcision articles.  But study FGM and then maybe you'll realize how A) insanely offensive the comparison is between male circumcision and FGM and B) how devastating FGM can be for a woman's health, never mind her sexuality (unlike male circumcision).  There is NO comparison.  Or, to put it another way, to say that there is similarities is to compare a cut to an amputation.[/quote]

Again, please read this:  http://joseph4gi.blogspot.com/2011/06/circumcision-is-child-abuse-picture.html   I think you will find it enlightening.  When you've read it I'd be very interested to hear your views.[/quote]

Again, you fail to explain how exactly the two procedures compare beyond their cultural roots.  Stop referring me to some blog and speak for yourself.  I am very curious how you can legitimately compare the two in terms of the devastation and danger they present.  You don't seem well informed about FGM and how dangerous and detrimental it is to women's health - it's not even comparable to male circumcision. [/quote]

Are you the Aids worker again?  if so I'm sure you've heard the term "cultural competence"?  You need to get your head out of the sand and start understanding some of the traditions of the populations that you claim to treat.  If you truly understood the issue you would know that there is a huge range of ways in which FGM is performed.  Please stop acting as if I am suggesting that it is a good thing.  It is not.  neither is cutting healthy tissue off an infant boy.[/quote]

Not only are you ignorant, but you're nasty too.  Not the "Aids Worker" but totally in agreement with the PP you cite above. Outside the cultural roots there is NO similarity between female and male circumcision in terms of the severity of the procedure.  And if you're going to use terms like cultural competence, at least apply it to the correct context (or don't use it because it simply reinforces that you don't really know what you're talking about). Also, anatomy brush up: foreskin isn't tissue.... It's skin and membrane.   A labia on the other hand is tissue.  Thanks for playing, though.[/quote]

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