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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Pp I think you are correct. A very small (under 20%) of uva's budget is from the state. Could be 0 if they didn't have in state tuition. And I am not sure why the gmu pp thinks that going to the top state university is a right for all Langley and McLean students. Heck that's not even true in MD anymore and UMD is way larger. I'm the OOS poster. My kid has a 4.65 weighted GPA, high SATs and will have 10 APs. So not totally out of line with the top group at Langley (although I know your grading system is different). IF DC gets in I don't think he will be diluting your gene pool too much. [/quote] OK, smarty pants, let's take your figures - which are wrong - UVA's operating budget exceeds 2.3 billion dollars. http://www.virginia.edu/budget/Docs/Budget%20Summaries/2009-10BudgetSummary.pdf. Since that pie chart comes from 2009, let's say UVA's operating costs are now 2.5 billion dollars. Twenty percent of that you allege is provided by the state of VA. Since you are so smart you do the math. Who is paying for this? My income tax. [/quote] And I apologize for my stats error - the State funds 9.5% of the operating budget for the university, not 20%. Apparently that is against $1.3 billion of the budget, the rest is the non state supported hospital. So here's one way to look at the math - 9.5% of $1.3 billion is 123 million. If you divide that by the approximately 10,000 in state undergrads at UVA that's $12,350 per student. By comparison an OOS student pays $26,000 more tuition than in state. So I think your tax dollars are funding the tuition discount for VA residents. Here's a recent Q&A on this topic from the President: "In this Q&A adapted from the University of Virginia magazine, President Teresa A. Sullivan discusses the challenges ahead. Q: State funding accounted for just 9.5 percent of the $1.3 billion 2011-12 budget for the Academic Division (which does not include the hospital budget). At nearby peer institution UNC-Chapel Hill, state funding per in-state student was $23,792 in 2010-11. In contrast, U.Va. received $9,445 per in-state student. Why is there such a disparity, and do you expect state funding to continue to decline? A: I can't tell you why the Commonwealth of Virginia has allowed this to happen. I can tell you that in North Carolina, there was a concerted effort to give strong support to their universities in the belief that would help their economy recover from the loss of tobacco, the loss of textiles, and the other blows that they had taken. And they do have some very fine universities as a result. But the formation of [Virginia] Governor Robert McDonnell's Commission on Higher Education does seem to be a watershed moment in the following sense: It was a public affirmation that higher education is important to the Commonwealth, and that graduates with a college education are important to the future of Virginia's economy. I saw that as a very good sign. How soon that gets transferred into more support, or if it ever does, I'm not sure. I think that looking at state support in terms of percentages is fundamentally misleading, so I don't like to talk percentages. We're about a $2.4 billion operation right now. A billion dollars of that is our hospital. No one expects our hospital to be funded by state appropriations. In addition, our research support has grown. So if we criticize the legislature for a shrinking percentage every time we get a dollar of research support, that's not really fair to the General Assembly. You need to compare apples to apples. I like the comparison of spending per in-state student because that is a fair comparison to make. Do I wish ours was higher? Yes, I do. We could do more if it were." [/quote]
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