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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I’d be depressed too if I had two kids with a guy that wouldn’t marry me.[/quote]

Yep.
The entire scenario sounds either celebrity who doesn't have to hold middling class values or the opposite which is ghetto.[/quote]

Not OP, but I love it when the small-mindedness of DCUM comes out. Maybe they aren’t American, did you think of that? In other cultures it’s not unusual to have kids before marriage. I have family in Sweden and several of them had kids first, then got married. One is getting married this summer after being with her boyfriend for 23 years. Marriage isn’t the same everywhere in the world.[/quote]

And neither is state support for families.
Sweden has a huge social safety net for families. The benefits of marriage pale when there is generous state support. In the US, either one is already way wealthy and doesn't need the legal obligations of a marital union or they are on the other side of the socio-economic scale where they entirely depend on government handouts.
Most people are in the middle and the marital union is a legal instrument to support the family - mainly providing security for the minor children. Which is why a huge component of divorce is the support of minor children.[/quote]

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