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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Vanderbilt tends to self-select for a lot of "smart, but social" kids who play down their intelligence and care about campus popularity. However, this has changed sooooo much at Vanderbilt, and it's no longer the southern party playpen it was in the early 2000s. The student body at Vandy is more similar to the Ivies/UChicago than in previous eras, because[b] it has aggressively courted super-high scorers (35+ ACT, 1560+ SAT)[/b] with the goal of boosting their reputation.

UChicago has also transformed because they've gone after the social elites at top private day and boarding schools. Look at the matriculation data at any top private school, and you'll see 30+ UChicago vs maybe 10 at HYPS over a 5 year span. Choate has 63 UChicago matriculants over the past 5 years.

They're probably more similar than you think, but Vandy has the school spirit edge because of their D1 sports programs.[/quote]

Vanderbilt's student body is not similar to Ivies.  395 students submitted an SAT score, of which only 99 have an SAT 1560 or above.

Vanderbilt
1,635 freshman
99 have SAT 1560 or above
6% of freshman class

Harvard
1,641 freshman
446 have SAT 1560 or above
27% of freshman class

Yale
1,633 freshman
289 have SAT 1560 or above
17% of freshman class

Princeton
1,404 freshman
212 have SAT 1560 or above
15% of freshman class
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There’s no effective difference between a 1500 and 1560[/quote]

Of course there is.

What a silly thing to say.

Getting a 1500 (plus a sufficient high GPA) gets your application reviewed but that review is holistic and doesn't ignore your SAT score just because you got the bare minimum to justify a look.[/quote]

The difference between a 1500 and 1560 is about two or three questions. The question for a very busy junior in high school shooting for competitive schools is whether it is worth all the extra time to study for those extra two or three questions, when there are a lot of other things they could be doing. And the answer is no. At the 1500/34 mark, the ECs become far more important. Every top school will take the 1500 with great ECs over the 1560 who isn't really bringing anything else. [/quote]

You said "There’s no effective difference between a 1500 and 1560"
So all things being equal, there is no practical difference between the two.
If you want to compare a 1560 with NOTHING else to a 1500 that brings EVERYTHING else, I guess you're right but tis is usually not the way we compare apples to apples.

Going from a 1500 to a 1560 is an extreme amount of work.  
As you get closer and closer to 1600, the more work it is to improve your score. 
This is in part what makes the 1560 more impressive than the 1500.
1560s are far more rare than 1500s.

10% of all asians that take the test get a 1500.

Let me say that again, 10 percent of ALL ASIANS that take the test get a 1500.

That is how common a 1500 is![/quote]

I am Asian with a PhD in Biostats and I still don't follow your logic. Are you saying that if 10% (that is 1 out of 10) of all Asians (approx. 7% of US population) --> that is 0.1 x 7% = 0.7% get exactly 1500 in SAT, then a score of 1500 must be "common"? [/quote]

lol  OMG.  I doubt it you have a PhD.  Moron.[/quote]

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