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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One thing you may not realize when your kids are very young is that there's tons of good options when it comes to elementary schools, but as the child ages, the options get much, much worse. DCI is a massive improvement over MacFarland and Roosevelt, and a 20 minute commute seems fairly normal. And there's not a huge price difference between living in Petworth and living in Brightwood/Takoma/Shepherd Park, and you could end up moving closer to DCI eventually. [/quote] So true. Everyone is fighting for access to OOB schools, not because that school is much better than the neighborhood school, but because the guaranteed Middle is superior. The lottery here is infuriating. Maybe this could be fixed by getting rid of all guaranteed spots and having every middle be lottery.[/quote]

You're frustrated by your little scramble in elementary school and your solution is to burn down the city.[/quote]

making all spots in all dcps schools subject to the lottery would be a whole lot fairer than what we do now, where we auction off spaces in the most desirable schools via housing prices while the least desirable schools are half empty. some of these schools are extremely underenrolled. [/quote]

It works for charters, of course, and has for many years, but somehow, someway it would be just impossible for DCPS too.[/quote]

Damn, you are so stupid. It works for charter because people are opting in. The citywide lottery would be forcing people out of their neighborhood school.

So much of the revival of the city was due to an impression that schools were improving, allowing more parents with young kids to stay. (The impression was overly optimistic at the time but it still worked). This would be over. [/quote]

What are you even talking about? The only schools that would see a significant impact would be Ward 3 schools. No one is clamoring to go to DCPS schools east of the park. Also, you have your history completely wrong. The reason parents east of the park now don't move when their kids get to school age, is because of the lottery and charters give them lots of good options. The only part of the city were people are super into DCPS is Ward 3. [/quote]

San Francisco did this and it was an epic disaster that pushed upper income families out of the public school system and increased segregation. They are now admitting that it was a disaster and going back to neighborhood schools.

https://www.sfusd.edu/schools/enroll/student-assignment-policy/student-assignment-changes[/quote] I would leave neighborhood elementary alone, but then start all (dcps and charter) middles at 6th. Everything lottery or test in with no special feeders. These kids are old enough to use transit. The neighborhood model just isn’t as relevant as they get older. That would address the issue of having to lateral to a similar OOB elementary just to get a feeder spot. [/quote]

You likely say this because you don't like your IB middle school option. Which I get -- I don't like mine either and my kid won't go there. But a pure lottery would create chaos. [b]It also diminishes the incentive people have to invest in neighborhood schools, which is pretty much the only ways that DCPS schools become desirable places to attend, even at the MS and HS level -- community investment[/b].

I do like the idea of test in schools at the MS and HS level. I think one of the biggest issues in the city is there are lots of kids who are capable and academically inclined but who have limited or no access to an academically rigorous MS or HS. A true magnet school system with test in could address their needs. And yes, this would result in some inequities because kids whose families could help them prepare for the test in exam would do better. But it's inequitable the other way, too. Where those bright kids who actually like and are interested in school wind up in programs where all the school can do is cater to the kids who are struggling and don't want to be there. [/quote] There would be no neighborhood schools after elementary. But not sure that would mean disinvestment at the middle school level--we have excellent middle schools that are non-neighborhood and difficult to lottery into. People would self sort similar to how Latin and Basis work now. [/quote]

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