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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Penn seems to offer more pre-med research and internship opportunities, stronger science, higher prestige, and more viable plan B into other career options if the pre-med doesn’t work out. On the other hand, this DC’s learning style is more aligned with deep-discussion, close-mentorship style learning at Williams, if what they advertise is the reality.

Both locations excite this DC in different ways. Not an athlete, is not motivated by getting rich (Reddit says both schools have big finance/Wall Street big money culture which is not DC’s thing). Not excited about a hyper competitive campus culture, don’t know if that’s only Wharton/finance kids that are like that on the Penn campus, or if you get some of that on the Williams campus too with so many kids from elite privates and boarding schools. This kid just genuinely loves learning. Cost is not a deciding factor.  [/quote]

"Penn seems to offer more pre-med research and internship opportunities" - What is your basis for this opinion? What exactly is "pre-med" research? From and undergraduate perspective this is very debatable. Being in a large city will provide many options which may or may not help but the competition for spots will also be higher. By this standard Northeastern should be superior to Williams because their kids can and do intern at Brigham Women's but we both know that isn't at all the case.

"stronger science" - again, what is your basis for this opinion, that it is an R1? From and undergraduate perspective this is very debatable with very high academics 100% taught by professors and excellent lab opportunities at top SLACs. It is well known that top SLACs send greater proportions of kids into top Phd programs than R1s including for the sciences.

"higher prestige" - absolutely not true

"more viable plan B into other career options if the pre-med doesn’t work out" - again absolutely not true unless the pivot is engineering.

Overall you have some unfounded biases with nothing to back them up so I would say step back, take a deep breathe and pick the school that best fits your child. Two great choices.[/quote]

Physician. Penn is the better choice. There is much more research and clinical hours available at Penn. Students can research at Williams but there are many more stem lab spots for undergrads per capita at penn than williams. 
The clinical experience is much easier to be able to do at the college in the semester. Penn provides that. The main hospital and CHOP are in university city on penn’s campus. Going into philly is not needed. Not that it is far, but it is a bus ride or a 2 mile walk. 
Penn classes are small for the most part. Premed courses anywhere are not “deep discussion” courses but penn certainly has plenty of small discussion based courses on a wide variety of topics. [/quote]

Are you a physician that attended an R1 or an LAC?[/quote]

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