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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My kid picked UVA over an Ivy.

Ivies have weird vibes these days. My older child is at one. They are often an exceedingly random mix of kids---super academic grinders, underprepared FGLI kids from middle America, ultra wealthy who stick to themselves. It's a odd mix. [/quote]

This is spot on, add the athlete segment as well.

Many private T20 schools have this odd, social engineering. It makes the schools well rounded on paper, but really uneven in classroom and culture.

Go with fit - this choice is about learning and development, not layman prestige. [/quote]

Yup. I am a Duke alum who loved my time there and I am hesitant to send my kid there as I think it has really changed for the worse. He is a nice, smart, kind, humble, well-rounded UMC kid. The type who used to make up much of the class at these schools and has been completely squeezed at the expense of the other groups.[/quote]

Could you expand on how you feel Duke has changed for the worse? Thx [/quote]

Someone above described it well (though they were likely describing another school). It is really rich kids (including a lot of legacies) in the Greek system who go party in empty fields and at off campus houses, FGLIs who are struggling to keep up and don't fit in (and often make little effort to assimilate and fit in), super intense striver/gunner types who think they are important because they lead the pre-business clubs and things like that. There aren't many "normal" kids who used to make the school great (and please note that many of the "normal" kids I went to school with were black, Asian, etc. - this is not a racial-based opinion). In my era (90s) Duke had a reputation of being pretty fratty and there was definitely that element, but most parties were on campus and very open and there were actually a lot of very normal kids, some of whom were in frats but it wasn't that big of a deal. This element barely exists. Which is sad.[/quote]

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