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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't really understand who decides what is grade level vs advanced vs remedial. People make these assertions about it but is there any sort.of policy document, statute, regulation, etc., that determines it? Or are people just stating their opinions and saying "actually" to make it sound authoritative?[/quote]

Maybe remedial is another way of saying "lowest track."

It's helpful to see what the suburban districts are doing. Here is MCPS:

https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/siteassets/schools/high-schools/k-q/poolesvillehs/uploadedfiles/departments/math/mathpathways.pdf

you can see algebra in 9th is the lowest level offered.

FCPS also has all kids doing Algebra by 8th. so when a PP said this:

"But in DCPS that track is actually the high level track which gets you to Algebra 1 by 8th. The “regular” track in DCPS which gets you to precal in 12th is actual remedial."

It's because algebra in 9th grade is remedial by the standards of most public school jurisdictions.[/quote]

But "remedial" doesn't mean lowest track. It means there's something that needs to be *remedied*. Like below grade, needs to catch up. That's different from being the lowest track, because being the lowest track at a particular school doesn't tell you whether it's below grade level.

And I am very skeptical that those jurisdictions have everyone actually doing Algebra that is truly high school level in 8th, even if they say that's their curriculum.[/quote]

My sisters kids are in fcps and are truly doing high school level algebra in 7th and geometry in 8th. This is not even considered advanced by the way. However dc standards are such a joke of course you should be skeptical. [/quote]

That's not the point. Nobody disputes that *some* of the kids in FCPS are doing very well in math. The point is what's the minimum level in FCPS-- the actual minimum, not what they *say* is the minimum.[/quote]

To earn a standard diploma in FCPS you need 3 math credits. To earn an advanced studies diploma you need 4 math credits.

FCPS outlines three different pathways for math courses: 
- Career Pathway: goal to complete Algebra II and one additional upper-level course
- College Pathway: goal to complete one AP course by graduation
- STEM College Pathway: goal to complete Calc BC AP by graduation

A student taking Algebra I freshman year is not remedial, as they could easily meet standard diploma course requirements on the Career or College pathway. Likewise, a student taking Algebra I in 8th grade could still be on the STEM College Pathway.

FCPS also says this: "Math pathways are about meaningful and relevant experiences, not a race to complete courses."

DC standards are not so different.[/quote]

A student taking Algebra 1 in 9th will be unable to reach AP cal by 12th.  They cannot meet the college pathway which many have said here you should at least have taken AP Cal that is basically the career or technical pathway for math or replace with remedial for those on this board.[/quote]

People do it by taking math over the summer, doubling up, or taking a compressed math course that's basically two classes in a single year. Not ideal but not impossible.[/quote]

More poor planning. More bad decisions at the expense of kids. [/quote]

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