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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My PCP has never once done a pap smear?  I get them every 3 years at the gyn.  If they're not doing the pap smear they don't even use the speculum anymore.

My mom  had amajor issues caught on a first gyn visit (tumor that could have been an issue).  So she took my sisters and me each when we turned 18.[/quote]

I posted earlier that my friend's daughter died of cervical cancer at the age of 21. By that point, she had it for 3 or 4 years. I can't believe what I'm reading here. This should be common sense that we need to see a gyn after puberty.[/quote]

I’m sorry about your friend’s daughter, but that is freakishly rare. Bowel cancer is also rare in young adults, but happens sometimes. Does that mean they should start giving colonoscopies to teenagers?

The HPV vaccine will likely mar a big difference for the generations able to get it.[/quote]

You're ignoring the fact that the recommendation is to have your first gyn visit between the ages of 12-15. I get colonoscopies at the recommended age too. Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.[/quote]

So you think internal exams should be standard of care for non-sexually active 12 year olds?! [/quote]

Since you seem very dense, let me explain it again. The initial visit isn't necessarily an internal exam. Did you even read the links? No, you just came on here with fake outrage trying to scare people. [/quote]

Slow your roll, there are several of us who think you're a bit off. You were responding to a post about a 21 year old dying of cervical cancer, and implying this could have been avoided if she had gone to the gyno prior to 18. But since she was apparently asymptomatic, then without invasive internal exams, nothing would have been discovered. And you're claiming that these early exams wouldn't include internals, so the outcome would not have been different. It is just a very sad outlier of a case. [/quote]

I'm the one whose friend lost her child to cervical cancer and you are talking to a different PP above. Why would you make up stuff that I never said? You're a very disturbed individual. My friend's child died, but if you think that early detection of cancer doesn't save lives, you're even dumber than I thought. I sincerely hope you are not raising a daughter.[/quote]

Yes, I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to the PP above. How would going to a gyn but not having a pelvic or pap smear catch anything? It's great to have a little chat but that wouldn't actually save a life.[/quote]

Yes, a little chat would potentially save a life. If during that chat the patient mentions symptoms that lead to an exam that leads to a diagnosis. That's how medicine works. You know what doesn't save lives? Being an uneducated moron who doesn't take their daughter to the GYN at the recommended age. Are you also this adamant about not taking your child to the dentist? It's such profound ignorance that I'd truly curious.[/quote]

I take my kid to the dentist because they fully examine her teeth. I wouldn't take my kid to the gyno unless a) she had symptoms and/or b) we planned for her to get a full internal examination. [/quote]

You are not qualified to determine what symptoms warrant a visit, which is why you take them to a specialist. If you aren't doing that, you're an irresponsible, selfish, ignorant parent. Just like you wouldn't neglect her teeth, you shouldn't neglect her reproductive health. [/quote]

I literally just said I would take child to gyno if she had symptoms. But I'm not taking her if she doesn't. Same for cardiologist or neurologist. And my first stop would be the PCP, to see what they think. Since I'm "not qualified to determine what symptoms warrant a visit." [/quote]

Do you take your kid to the dentist or just wait for their teeth to start falling out?[/quote]

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